Greenlight NA and EU Travel

[Shistar]

Also i hate this term "culture clash" EU/NA isn't that different, I play on both, what culture clash? outside of different raid strats they are very very similar, this is not a JP vs NA situation. I say this to both sides both communities are very very similar the finger pointing saying "NA BAD!" or "EU BAD!" is just ridiculous to me, i play on both...they're basically the same in many many respects.

When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
Or people can just make their own PFs with their own strats, if this culture clash people are worried about is in the room with us...

[Onshinn]

I object... please No... yadda! damedayo! No dame!!!

[HereticJay]

i dont see why they are so hesitant to implement it already to be honest we can already see what will happen from what they did in OCE people will come over try abit of pf realize the ping is shit and not do it and the only people that do decide to travel will just do it for social reasons

[SalamanderIX]

Rest assured EU has no interest in raiding with your PF...

You say that now, but the fact of the matter is people will raid on whichever DC is the most popular for raiding. Most of us had no interest in raiding on Aether, but it killed Primal Ultimate raiding and left all other content hurting, tons of people moved there until they closed off the entire DC.

Just like how in EU your Light DC has dominated raids. Well. Aether is even larger than Light. There's no fighting against human nature, a lot of your raiders will live in or move to Aether, making EU a very empty place.

[CarlCarl]

You say that now, but the fact of the matter is people will raid on whichever DC is the most popular for raiding. Most of us had no interest in raiding on Aether, but it killed Primal Ultimate raiding and left all other content hurting, tons of people moved there until they closed off the entire DC.

Just like how in EU your Light DC has dominated raids. Well. Aether is even larger than Light. There's no fighting against human nature, a lot of your raiders will live in or move to Aether, making EU a very empty place.

I think you are forgetting the small detail here that DCs in the same region will have the same ping. A primal player will have no problems going to aether, but no EU player will go out of their way to raid on a DC that has +150 ms ping and doesnt allign with their timezone.

[Jeeqbit]

Only people who will be going to EU to raid are mostly people that are in the EU themselves but have their character on NA worlds.

Only people who will be going to Aether to raid are mostly people that are in NA themselves but have their character on EU worlds.

And they'll often struggle to get to Aether anyway because it gets locked down a lot due to how many people try to go there.

[Burmecia]

Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.

[Valence]

Only people who will be going to EU to raid are mostly people that are in the EU themselves but have their character on NA worlds.

Only people who will be going to Aether to raid are mostly people that are in NA themselves but have their character on EU worlds.

And they'll often struggle to get to Aether anyway because it gets locked down a lot due to how many people try to go there.

Not just. All of NA East Coast has close or even better ping to EU than NA. For them, while it's not perfect latency, it's not perfect on either. If anything, something like enabling that travel would probably have some East Coast players traveling to EU rather than the opposite. It's going to take from NA, not the other way around.

[shoba]

i dont see why they are so hesitant to implement it already to be honest we can already see what will happen from what they did in OCE people will come over try abit of pf realize the ping is shit and not do it and the only people that do decide to travel will just do it for social reasons

you're so right

[Sililos]

They really should just open up the datacenters to travel.

OCE is a good example of it going wrong. US players can travel to us, but we cant travel too them.
The result? Players wanting to play with their US Friends chose to transfer back to US instead of having their US friends travel to OCE daily.
OCE is damn near dead, there are worries that if travel away from OCE is opened it will kill the datacenter. No it wont, people are already leaving and unlike cross DC travel, its permanently transferring.
Granted its a bit difference from the US/EU situations.
OCE exists because JP players didn't like us English speaking OCE players on 'THEIR' DC and wanted us gone, so we got a Datacenter to keep them happy and out of their hair.

I have stuck by OCE despite everything and i gotta say, not being able to run content because PF and DF are dead? Isn't exactly helping my desire to keep playing.
I miss US where i could log on at 9AM or 9PM my time and it would be active, even Frontlines was active 24/7. I however don't miss the horrible ping. I couldn't raid on US and there was no way in hell id be able to own a house there, let alone a large. I can at least do both on OCE...... or well.... I can at least own a house. Cant raid if there's nobody to raid with.

Cross DC travel id consider a failed experiment due to execution not concept.
They need too either open it up to everyone, or remove it, and if JP players don't want us dirty outsiders on their DC? Simple, they can stay isolated in their little bubble and the rest of us can have fun together.

Somethings got to change for the smaller DC's to thrive, we are no longer in the day of the WoW refugee, their streamers are all trying to force GW2 now for some reason and that's where their followers have gone (And then left because that game is not remotely represented by the popular streamer experience) lol.
Anyway SE, you have datacenters crying out for help, just open DC travel too them and be done with it. Stop making excuses.