Please remove housing lottery and make some other way of house acquisition.

[Kytrin]

The problem with that argument though is until they DO crack down on alts and housing, there isn't a better system anyway. Any possible system you can think of is going to get abused by alts and it'll be worse than what we have now. This is really a completely separate issue, one they refuse to fix by simply imposing a hard "one house per server for every paid account" rule.

Essentially, the lottery is going to be the most fair system regardless of whether alts are involved or not.

Then we're back to finding a way to give EVERYONE a guaranteed house regardless of what server they're on. Because the people who are frustrated by the cheating and randomness aren't wrong for being frustrated, and clearly Square has no intention of that kind of crackdown, so regardless of whether the system is objectively fair in a perfect world we're still going to go in constant circles until something changes.

[Selsix]

Then we're back to finding a way to give EVERYONE a guaranteed house regardless of what server they're on. Because the people who are frustrated by the cheating and randomness aren't wrong for being frustrated, and clearly Square has no intention of that kind of crackdown, so regardless of whether the system is objectively fair in a perfect world we're still going to go in constant circles until something changes.

You misunderstand me. I'm not saying the current system is good or that people shouldn't be frustrated. You have every right to be frustrated, I was for YEARS until I finally got lucky. What I'm saying is the lottery isn't the problem, the lottery in a vacuum is going to be the most fair system regardless of any other factors and this includes alts. That being said the alts ARE the problem. The reason people can't get a house is because we have entire housing wards owned by ONE person, there are people out here who don't rest until every alt they own has a house and some who make more alts just to buy more houses. The alts are the problem. If you direct your anger at a perfectly fair lottery system instead of the real estate tycoons buying up entire wards for themselves you aren't going to change anything. While it may seem SE currently has no intentions to crack down on the alts, if the community makes a big enough stink about them they won't have any choice but to address it.

[Kytrin]

You misunderstand me. I'm not saying the current system is good or that people shouldn't be frustrated. You have every right to be frustrated, I was for YEARS until I finally got lucky. What I'm saying is the lottery isn't the problem, the lottery in a vacuum is going to be the most fair system regardless of any other factors and this includes alts. That being said the alts ARE the problem. The reason people can't get a house is because we have entire housing wards owned by ONE person, there are people out here who don't rest until every alt they own has a house and some who make more alts just to buy more houses. The alts are the problem. If you direct your anger at a perfectly fair lottery system instead of the real estate tycoons buying up entire wards for themselves you aren't going to change anything. While it may seem SE currently has no intentions to crack down on the alts, if the community makes a big enough stink about them they won't have any choice but to address it.

Okay, that's fair.

[Burmecia]

I still have not yet to hear a good reason to remove the lottery... please give me a reason, so I can debunk it for you fair and square.

Current situation is absolutely horrible.
You bid. You lose. You bid. You lose. You bid. You lose. You bid. You lose. Weeks go by. Months go by. Years go by. You still can not get the house.

--Reason seems to be: losing sux, and waiting for success takes too long.

I quite like this part, from suggestion #1.

This system favors players who played the game the most, and they can get nicer plots, while newer players will have to work it up from smaller plots. In my opinion, this system is much more fair than just the random.

No "nicer" plots for sprouts. That's fairness.

[Khryseis_Astra]

The root problem is the limited availability. There’s not enough plots on a world for everyone who wants one, and most people aren’t interested in the hassles of transferring to go get a house on the few empty worlds and have to DC travel just to do basic content. So there’s any number of ideas, and some here are promising, to make the current system hurt a little less, but the overall problem is the same. Which is why they should add an instanced system to supplement the limited supply of the wards. Everyone gets a fully functional housing plot - indoors and outdoors. If you want a special spot in the existing neighborhoods, then you can endure the lotto.

From the OP’s post, the queue system sounds interesting, but how does the game decide who gets the plot if there are multiple people queuing for it? Back to lotto RNG… and would that be just a particular plot? Or also the ward? Because you could be waiting a long time for one of the more popular ones to even open up. While I like the idea of people who’ve played longer/more often getting some kind of priority, especially when upgrading, it does seem like it would be hard for them to implement.

The auction system would just prioritize players with lots of gil that can easily outbid the average player, and I don’t see a way that abuse could be controlled. I play the game every day, and have for years. I think the most gil I’ve had at once is like 75 mil, but I usually hover between 30-50, because I spend it! lol Thankfully my dream plot is a small, because I’d be broke going for anything else, especially in a bidding war.

The pity system just isn’t going to help as much as people would like it to. A house gets 200 bidders. 1 person wins, the other 199 have the same amount of pity going into the next lotto. There’s just too many people competing for the same limited supply to make much of a difference.

Honestly I just wish they’d bring back auto-relocation. It could still work with the lotto, just make it only work during results period. If a house is freed up during the claiming period, you can auto-relo instantly if you see it first. Then the plot you left behind goes into the next cycle, so there’s the same number of plots going into the next lotto cycle regardless. Then you still have the same amount of chance for new and old players alike, but those looking to upgrade aren’t having to compete against a new crop of players every lotto.

[Remolia]

Just abandon Housing in this game, and don't stress urself with a crappy game design.

[TeresaFortell]

Rewriting the entire housing system would be a massive undertaking, essentially requiring a complete overhaul. Moreover, it would likely have a noticeable impact on those who already own plots and houses.

[WillIrishclover]

Bring back the placard system where you had to stand around a house for up to 24 real hours while a random rng timer happened and you'll be on your knees praising the lottery.

[Nyastra]

Bring back the placard system where you had to stand around a house for up to 24 real hours while a random rng timer happened and you'll be on your knees praising the lottery.

Yeah and don't forget that you HAVE to click on a small because your chances of getting a Medium or Large is essentially 0.

[Raikai]

The lottery system is just as bad and frustrating as plot camping from before, but without the unhealthy play it promoted.

I think the auto demolition would be fine if we had a 100% sure way to get a house again when we decide to come back to XIV after a few years away. Right now the lottery just exacerbates the bad side of the auto-demolition, the bad side of losing the gil sink you invested in purchasing the plot, and the loss of every furnishing inside if you didn't plan to take a break from the game or simply forgot about taking them out.

If nothing is done, at least they could make apartments more attractive. A bigger option for a layout.