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    At the moment I don't really care anymore. Meonis LL summary will be enough.
    I also don't care when 7.4 releases at this point.

    This game is going to die. SE missed it to bring it really up to date (better engine and code) and now it's too late.
    Their playerbase is already very tiered from years of waiting and leaves for playing other games.
    They can't get all the people back. They ignored player feedback too long.
    They can't start 'now' to make it new and stuff. It would take too long at this point.

    They killed their golden goose. Maybe I am wrong, but that's what I see. And I have no idea how this could be saved.
    I am still around because I am an idiot, I guess.

    FF14 for me often feels like waiting simulator. It's less boring to play Power Wash Simulator. :x
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenchild View Post
    At the moment I don't really care anymore. Meonis LL summary will be enough.
    I also don't care when 7.4 releases at this point.

    This game is going to die. SE missed it to bring it really up to date (better engine and code) and now it's too late.
    Their playerbase is already very tiered from years of waiting and leaves for playing other games.
    They can't get all the people back. They ignored player feedback too long.
    They can't start 'now' to make it new and stuff. It would take too long at this point.

    They killed their golden goose. Maybe I am wrong, but that's what I see. And I have no idea how this could be saved.
    I am still around because I am an idiot, I guess.

    FF14 for me often feels like waiting simulator. It's less boring to play Power Wash Simulator. :x
    I'd not be too quick to doompost. WoW was in a very similar position during Shadowlands when most people left to FFXIV. They were constantly accused of not listening to player feedback and even doubling down on the decision to make covenants non-changable, then really punishing to change, and finally after much arguing actually easy to swap. Their argument was that it was a very RPGesque decision that had consequences, but we're talking about a MMO here where players would boot you out of DF if you had the wrong covenant for the class because "muh meta". WoW was in a state of "this is it, the end of the top MMO" and somehow it was able to persist, turn around, shuffle things and now it's back to being in the race against FFXIV. Ebbs and flows. Squeanix will eventually need to shuffle things around sooner rather than later, and things will start picking back up. The MSQ design in the newer patches is already on the right track.

    (Unrelated note but Power Wash Simulator is an awesome game!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by XtremePrime View Post
    I'd not be too quick to doompost. WoW was in a very similar position during Shadowlands when most people left to FFXIV. They were constantly accused of not listening to player feedback and even doubling down on the decision to make covenants non-changable, then really punishing to change, and finally after much arguing actually easy to swap. Their argument was that it was a very RPGesque decision that had consequences, but we're talking about a MMO here where players would boot you out of DF if you had the wrong covenant for the class because "muh meta". WoW was in a state of "this is it, the end of the top MMO" and somehow it was able to persist, turn around, shuffle things and now it's back to being in the race against FFXIV. Ebbs and flows. Squeanix will eventually need to shuffle things around sooner rather than later, and things will start picking back up. The MSQ design in the newer patches is already on the right track.

    (Unrelated note but Power Wash Simulator is an awesome game!)
    I really hope you’re right, but honestly I just can’t see it anymore. Sadly, SE isn’t exactly known for making good decisions. :’)
    The biggest issue is still the game’s engine and underlying code. This game just isn’t future-proof anymore. It's far too limited.
    They missed the chance to rework it at the right time, and now it would take far too long.

    Many veterans are already fed up and leaving, while younger players seem to have less and less interest in MMOs like FF14 in general.

    That’s why I just don’t see it anymore. Dawntrail was the perfect moment to bring out something truly new and big. But they missed it.
    Instead, it’s a huge disappointment after the 2–3 years of Endwalker content drought. Ruining even many character faces (and with them
    the personalities players were attached to).
    Add to that a terrible MSQ and a downright stupid release schedule that leaves most players bored. In my eyes it’s cooked.
    But I hope you're right. I want FF14 to success.
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    Last edited by Heavenchild; 10-27-2025 at 10:31 PM.
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