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    I doubt iconic FF job names will be used for classes. The current system seems to be that classes are called something generic, whereas jobs are the iconic FF name for essentially the same thing. Gladiator to Paladin, Marauder to Warrior, etc. Bet on Thief being a job, if anything, but not a class.

    Also, I'm not sure if RDM is really possible under the current system, since it's by definition a user of both white and black magics, with some fencing ability. How would it have both WHM and BLM spells, along with a sword? And if we went with the idea many suggest of just giving it enfeebling and magical blade attacks, then is it really even a RDM anymore, or just a Magic Knight with a rapier?
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    Last edited by BlueMage; 05-03-2012 at 03:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMage View Post
    I doubt iconic FF job names will be used for classes. The current system seems to be that classes are called something generic, whereas jobs are the iconic FF name for essentially the same thing. Gladiator to Paladin, Marauder to Warrior, etc. Bet on Thief being a job, if anything, but not a class.
    Good call, totally agree. Meant to say it in my post in fact, oops. :P
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    the down side to class/job system is the amount of extra work that will need to be done for each set. class quest, job quest, class skills, job skills class only gear, af ect. the could have essentially made 2 new jobs for the amount of work it takes to make 1 class/job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMage View Post
    I doubt iconic FF job names will be used for classes. The current system seems to be that classes are called something generic, whereas jobs are the iconic FF name for essentially the same thing. Gladiator to Paladin, Marauder to Warrior, etc. Bet on Thief being a job, if anything, but not a class.

    Also, I'm not sure if RDM is really possible under the current system, since it's by definition a user of both white and black magics, with some fencing ability. How would it have both WHM and BLM spells, along with a sword? And if we went with the idea many suggest of just giving it enfeebling and magical blade attacks, then is it really even a RDM anymore, or just a Magic Knight with a rapier?
    PLD uses white magic, why couldn't Red Mage use both white and black?

    I'm hoping they make Red Mage/Mystic Knight like Genesis, but with the 3 "destructive" elements. A front line fighter who uses en-spells for near 100% of his damage (unlike Pug/Monk who's elemental fists are more tacked on) and has some healing/support spells/abilities.
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    They could continue giving classes generic-ish names as Classes = weapons. So for something like Ninja and Thief, Scout could be the class and Ninja and Thief could be the two jobs.

    To further support this argument, jobs tend to be classes + some skills/abilities. So by using Scout as a base, you get all the needed skills for both in and then add the real job defining skills/abilities with the jobs.

    Red Mage could have Fencer as its class, since who else would use a Rapier? That takes care of all the base skills/abilities and then allow Red Mage to cross-class CNJ/THM and add some other bits to it.
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    I think it will be 2-3 new classes.

    If they release Arcanist on its own, we will see a glut of ppl all leveling one class, and thus it will be very difficult to get PTs together. FFXI never released a job on its own.. they were always done in multiples for this reason.

    However...

    If they release a new class simultaneously with 2.0 (the final release - not beta), then there will be an influx of new players and it might work out ok..

    But I still think we will see at least 2-3 new classes with the following priority: (**The jobs listed are what I would personally like to see)
    1. Arcanist > Time Mage
    2. Scout > Thief
    3. Musketeer > Corsair/Gambler (or outside chance Red Mage)

    After that people will want a pet class, so we'll get "Tamer > Beastmaster" or "Evoker > Summoner"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    I think it will be 2-3 new classes.

    If they release Arcanist on its own, we will see a glut of ppl all leveling one class, and thus it will be very difficult to get PTs together. FFXI never released a job on its own.. they were always done in multiples for this reason.

    However...

    If they release a new class simultaneously with 2.0 (the final release - not beta), then there will be an influx of new players and it might work out ok... but I still think we will see at least 2-3 new classes with this priority: (**The jobs listed are what I would personally like to see)
    1. Arcanist > Time Mage
    2. Scout > Thief
    3. Musketeer > Corsair/Gambler (or outside chance Red Mage)

    After that people will want a pet class, so we'll get "Tamer > Beastmaster" or "Evoker > Summoner"
    i dont think it would be hard to get partys together, everyone would just PL anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    i dont think it would be hard to get partys together, everyone would just PL anyway.
    That's a bad idea. If 2.0 is going to introduce low level content and make it worth while to explore the new zones... than power leveling is counter productive. I've done enough of PLing... i want new classes, new zonez, new story, new quests to explore in a new world.

    I hope not to power level again until i've experienced the 2.0 content at lower levels at least twice.
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    what i've always wondered is how are they gonna branch off into different types of weapons. i'd hope Ninja uses traditional katanas instead of just regular daggers.
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    "Unbelievable wipes... indescribable failings. Whining, bitching, rage quitting - through an endless party find." - Doho, A Whole New Whorl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zell View Post
    That's a bad idea. If 2.0 is going to introduce low level content and make it worth while to explore the new zones... than power leveling is counter productive. I've done enough of PLing... i want new classes, new zonez, new story, new quests to explore in a new world.

    I hope not to power level again until i've experienced the 2.0 content at lower levels at least twice.
    brand new classes/jobs, you better believe everyone will PL, everyone's gonna wanna have the first 50...
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