"You pull, you tank" is a bad mentality

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Swiftcast is for extra Gravity cast when your Lightspeed runs out :P

[Frizze]

This is quite a self-own if you think that's impossible LOL

I'm not going to post videos for you, little man. See you in roulettes I guess?

The hardest part of what they asked would be remaining ahead of the DPS on the agro meter. Cause i guarantee that if the tank sits still and starts having a fit im running forward with the healer to actually finish the dungeon. Doesnt matter which of us pulls. I have black mage tanked 90% of the dungeons in the game due to connection issues faced by various tanks over the years. I know you can keep me up. Tanks arent required for dungeons, they just make them easier.

[Elephantality]

It doesn't even matter if a tank pulls a YPYT, because healers are Gods.

People oppose YPYT because of tanks with ego, but saying 'healers are god' is also ego, so the same thing. Team work is what matters here.

[NanaWiloh]

Then please by all means post a video of you doing W2W pull as a Healer on the latest dungeon and keeping yourself alive during it. If "healers are gods"

You can't and you won't.

Healing themselves and the dps through w2w in expert possible,them doing the pull solo not a chance in Hell.

[Miradelle]

People oppose YPYT because of tanks with ego, but saying 'healers are god' is also ego, so the same thing. Team work is what matters here.

Healers can carry the group the most out of any role, that's why healers are Gods. It's why I always heal, because I don't want to wipe and waste time, so even if I end up with someone who I'm shocked got to lvl 100 past all the solo duties, we still can get through no problem.

Now, I guess with the phoenix downs it's less of an issue.

[Miradelle]

Healing themselves and the dps through w2w in expert possible,them doing the pull solo not a chance in Hell.

I would try that if I could queue solo into the new dungeon. My guess is that mana would be the biggest issue, so after like a few minutes you'd run out of mana before the mobs are dead. Super hi-ethers might make it possible, but it'd be really slow.

[IttyBittyShark]

i've always mained white mage and i feel like it is so easy to keep everyone alive and do w2w pulls. i've been trying to speed level my ninja, and i never realized how horrible other healers are. it is actually so crazy to me. i feel like i'm doing my masters promos in league or something i get so angry with these dumb people.

i have had three separate groups yell at me today for pulling when truthfully the issue is 1) the tank is failing to gain aggro. 2) the healer is awful and it's just really really hard to heal and do their job. i feel like i am playing pvp and the enemies are my own teammates.

[MikeCake]

i've always mained white mage and i feel like it is so easy to keep everyone alive and do w2w pulls. i've been trying to speed level my ninja, and i never realized how horrible other healers are. it is actually so crazy to me. i feel like i'm doing my masters promos in league or something i get so angry with these dumb people.

i have had three separate groups yell at me today for pulling when truthfully the issue is 1) the tank is failing to gain aggro. 2) the healer is awful and it's just really really hard to heal and do their job. i feel like i am playing pvp and the enemies are my own teammates.

Have you considered if 3 different groups had problem with you, maybe you are the problem?

[TBerry]

Sure, it's totally understandable for a low-level tank to not wallpull in pre-50 dungeons. Past 50 however, dungeons become easier enough and jobs have more than enough tools to handle wallpull without any issues. As for the topic of the thread, YPYT isn't usually an issue of not being comfortable enough to do it but a lot more often is an issue of ego like "I'm the leader of the group and nobody but me has the right to pull".

You'll do it anyway regardless of dungeon.

[IttyBittyShark]

Have you considered if 3 different groups had problem with you, maybe you are the problem?

i have considered this but if i review it and look at it it is objectively good. the tank takes aggro, and the healer should heal through a wall to wall. if the healer cannot heal then they're just not good at their job. i am not pulling excessively i just am a bit ahead of the tank.