"You pull, you tank" is a bad mentality

[Yeonhee]

So we just admitting we send malicious reports out here.

Meh, I used the report system maybe a handful of times since I started playing and it was not for such a thing. I was mostly answering their claim that DPS pulling ahead of tanks is griefing but somehow tanks refusing to do the very basics of their role isn't. And yes, a tank with the YPYT mentality is a lot more likely to receive a warning than a DPS running ahead of them.

[bic12]

And if the tank gets the habit of letting mates die because they refuse to take aggro, the tank is also gonna be pulled by a GM at some point. And I pretty much agree with Astronis, I don't know what kind of tank you're playing with for the DPS to get so far ahead that they pull both pack before the tank gets the chance to do anything. The only "valid" case I could think of is if the tank is AFK and in that case, sure, it's pretty stupid to go ahead alone and pull everything.

A dancer can routinely do that. Ninja too.

It's actually optimal for them to pull both packs because they can apply arm's length.

[bic12]

Nobody likes being rushed.

Nobody likes being held back either?????

[Supersnow845]

I just love how you're just completely justifying what so many people hate in this topic and when it comes to tanking in general.

It doesn't matter if you have arms length, don't pull for the tank.

If you want the dungeon to go smoothly, then let the tank pull simple as that. Don't run ahead pop arms length and then run it back to the tank.

As a Healer don't run ahead and then use rescue to pull a time to get them to go faster even if Sprint is down. Nobody likes being rushed.


Everything you said here basically falls under griefing.

I really hope the devs and GM's read these forum posts because I think they honestly need to increase the punishment for stuff like this since so many people here don't think making things difficult for others is a big deal.

I like how this is literally just a list of everything that would make me more likely to comm a DPS when I’m the tank

[Asari5]

wouldnt the first thing going through your head be: 'oh no i'm too slow for this group. time to move a bit faster.'

instead of letting people die.

[BlisteringFrost]

wouldnt the first thing going through your head be: 'oh no i'm too slow for this group. time to move a bit faster.'

instead of letting people die.

No I'd just leave if I'm getting annoyed.

I don't have to explain anything.

[Miradelle]

I have lost track of how many of these inconsequential wipes I have had to walk back from. As it happens it was twice today with a lowbie tank I am levelling.

Then that's a tank issue, and I guess you need to ask them to single pull?

[Miradelle]

Well that's a waste of Swiftcast if I ever saw one.
Unless there are other ways that do not require you to stop.

Idk what this even means? You don't need to swiftcast in a dungeon if you're a good healer.

If a tank is moving forward and hitting their AoE, which is what tanks are supposed to do, and do every dungeon .. then how would you need to res anyone besides a tank that you couldn't heal?

[Miradelle]

Then please by all means post a video of you doing W2W pull as a Healer on the latest dungeon and keeping yourself alive during it. If "healers are gods"

You can't and you won't.

This is quite a self-own if you think that's impossible LOL

I'm not going to post videos for you, little man. See you in roulettes I guess?

[VeyaAkemi]

I am also confused by "waste of Swift" comment, I am always using Swift pre-pulls to slap down a Spreadlo focused on the Tank, so the Tank gets the big shield and the DPS feel comfortable standing in bad during the pull as to not lose damage avoiding AoEs, if it is level 94+ content, it will be back before the pull is over, it's no big deal.

Idk what this even means? You don't need to swiftcast in a dungeon if you're a good healer.

It's useful for SCH specifically for the reason I mentioned, as the other option is to lag behind a little to cast Adlo, you don't really need it, what I do can be considered unnecessary in an absolute sense, but it feels like the best use of it, a skill off CD is a skill wasted, after all.