Quote Originally Posted by Bryson View Post
savage is midcore.. don't let na casuals convince you otherwise. the tier was cleared week 2 in pf. nothing "hc" about that.
Just because ex trials are trivial to you at this point, doesn't mean it's not midcore or casual. Casual battle content is anything queueable and part of the roulette rotation. That is already established. And although you can technically queue for them, they are not a part of the rotation. Savage raids are punishing in the fact they require perfection or nothing. Body checks ongoing for every other mechanic (light parties and pairs) on top of mechanics that require you to stand in this specific spot or wipe the group for your mistake. Extremes have more leeway in that often, a single death does not mean you are causing a wipe and it's more easily recoverable while still being a bit challenging. Ultimate raiders will see Ex trails as "casual" because it is trivial for them. It's easy. While they are a bit pushed in savage raids. So to them, savage might be "midcore". But to the casual midcore player, savage raids are about the hardest content they will step foot in.

I don't even hope to clear an ultimate raid. It's not even on my list of things to do, because I know it's not possible for me due to the difficulty of the content. I have cleared every extreme so far in this expansion, and last tier, I wasn't able to even clear m3s through PF at all. I didn't even attempt to set foot in this tier's savage because I refuse to go through that again. And PF being able to clear a savage tier quick really depends on who's in PF. If you wait a few months to try, you won't get the same people in PF as when the content was initially released. You get the exact kind of person you are. A casual midcore type player setting foot into savage for the first time. These people are not clearing the tier in just 2 weeks. That's been my experience.