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    I don’t know whether I’m more impressed by how much you seem to think completely dodging the question and offering nothing strengthens your argument or the fact that in such a short a sentence you managed to write something completely illegible

    I would say I’d like to hear what you think is the strongest skill in the game but like my earlier wow factor comment I’m assuming I won’t get an answer or I’ll get some illegible deflection
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    I'm also impressed by how you can keep dodging the question by making another question instead. Like the one in the page 9 that you pretend to ignored. Before you try to goad me to do as you want. Why don't you go back and answer that first?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_User View Post
    2.Dark Mind at the moment don't even have that sprinkle.
    What, is it a clone of the always-famous "Light Mind" that is also 20% magic damage reduction, 10% physical? When it should be inverted? Or what is your particular problem here?

    If you look at the "extra" CDs:

    * WAR: +HP and +healing.
    * PLD: Block everything.
    * GNB: 10% DR and +parry.
    * DRK: 10% DR, doubled against magic.

    Seems... to work fine? It's a copy of the GNB ability that trades extra parries for better magic DR and a shorter CD, but in return gets a shorter duration, too. Or I guess it'd be more accurate to say GNB is as clone of the DRK ability, but same net result.
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    The problem is it is a a clone when it supposed to be unique and not weak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_User View Post
    The problem is it is a a clone when it supposed to be unique and not weak.
    But it's not just a clone, and it's not weak? What are you on about? It's a 10s 20% DR (because magical damage is what matters in the vast vast majority of fights) on a 60s CD. There's a reason GNBs complain about having the clone that is weaker, you know? :P
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    How is it not a clone? Do you really need it to have 10% more physical damage reduction and 30s recast longer so you can finally call it a clone?


    What if we make TBN a 10% mit less and 15s recast Bloodwhetting? It can't be called a clone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_User View Post
    How is it not a clone? Do you really need it to have 10% more physical damage reduction and 30s recast longer so you can finally call it a clone?
    I think you need to read the actual tooltips, you seemingly misread them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_User View Post
    I'm also impressed by how you can keep dodging the question by making another question instead. Like the one in the page 9 that you pretend to ignored. Before you try to goad me to do as you want. Why don't you go back and answer that first?
    I ignored that question because it literally has zero relevance to the point being made

    Yes if TBN was bloodwhetting but with 10% less mitigation but a 15 second CD instead of 25 seconds I’d call it a clone. If it had that ON TOP OF also having TBN itself I’d call it powerful. Even if it didn’t have that the 15 second CD would give it niches that others have explained (but you ignored because those niches only exist in high end content)

    This is what you are either refusing to see, won’t see or think if you ignore it for long enough it’ll go away

    dark mind can be as close to a copy of rampart in your mind as you want. It doesn’t particularly matter but the simple fact it DRK has dark mind AND rampart. A “copy” (it’s not but I’m using your words) giving you literally 150% more uses of the same skill is powerful. It’s not flashy but it’s powerful.

    Which returns to my question (for like the 15th time) if a skill being powerful is meaningless to you only if it’s “flashy” then what kind of skill is an example of what you consider flashy
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    There you are. What if we increase Dark Mind physical damage reduction by 10% and increase the recast time by 30s?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I ignored that question because it literally has zero relevance to the point being made

    Yes if TBN was bloodwhetting but with 10% less mitigation but a 15 second CD instead of 25 seconds I’d call it a clone. If it had that ON TOP OF also having TBN itself I’d call it powerful. Even if it didn’t have that the 15 second CD would give it niches that others have explained (but you ignored because those niches only exist in high end content)

    This is what you are either refusing to see, won’t see or think if you ignore it for long enough it’ll go away

    dark mind can be as close to a copy of rampart in your mind as you want. It doesn’t particularly matter but the simple fact it DRK has dark mind AND rampart. A “copy” (it’s not but I’m using your words) giving you literally 150% more uses of the same skill is powerful. It’s not flashy but it’s powerful.

    Which returns to my question (for like the 15th time) if a skill being powerful is meaningless to you only if it’s “flashy” then what kind of skill is an example of what you consider flashy

    Thank you for a demonstration of how to appreciate your polished turd.
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