DRK feels super squish in comparison to the other tanks

[Oizen]

Do boss Tank Buster Twice in 25s so the second TBN isn't a waste too? Oh and don't forget the MP regeneration.

Yeah. The very first TB of FRU functions exactly like that.

MP Management = skill issue tbh

[The_User]

Yeah. The very first TB of FRU functions exactly like that.

MP Management = skill issue tbh

It is justify that we have to endured through the whole game for this?

[Mikey_R]

It is the same. You don't take more damage when using ToB and you also don't take less damage [than ToB] when using TBN. The only real difference is 5% of HP BAR.

You don't take more damage when using ToB, no, but you do take less damage when using TBN. If you have 10K HP, that incoming attack is going to do 2K less damage as it is removed before it hit hits the DRK. That difference matters as, if you can mitigate an attack completely, secondary effects of an attack, like knockbacks and debuffs, might not apply (completely dependant on the attack being mitigated). There are also scenarios where, if there is more damage coming out over a longer period of time, by having extra HP, you can keep healing into that extra HP for that extra safety, whereas with a shield, you cannot.

This is why I say just reducing them down to just effective HP does not tell the full story. There are differences between the two when you take into account more than just a simple, single hit and it might cause one to be more effective for a certain mechanic than another.

[The_User]

5% gap of TBN and ToB don't justify how DRK have to endured all these years.

[Derio]

MP management is a skill issue. DRK only problem in any content is when a healer is not present. In high end content you always have a healer and DRK has the most self mitigation tools out of all the tanks.

If we are talking about dungeons, yes DRK struggles when you are minimum ilvl for high end dungeons and for leveling dungeons when you have a bad healer. But it is nowhere near as bad as EW DRK for dungeons.

[Oizen]

It is justify that we have to endured through the whole game for this?

Do you want me to list every single fight where the 15s on TBN is relevant? What will you give me if I do?
Fact of the matter is Dark Knight has been part of every single world first clear since 5.0 except one, if its kit was as non-functional as your claiming I don't think it be the case.

[The_User]

Do you want me to list every single fight where the 15s on TBN is relevant? What will you give me if I do?
Fact of the matter is Dark Knight has been part of every single world first clear since 5.0 except one, if its kit was as non-functional as your claiming I don't think it be the case.

You seem confused, Why would anyone need to hire you to prove the fact that YOU want to prove?


Fact is Dark Knight has been the most complained tank design by the player since 5.0 and I love the fact that THE WORLD FIRST HEALER shoved the fact that the living dead suck on your face and you can't say otherwise anymore.


There is something funny about the egotistic and self-centered handful of player base got slapped by the alpha.


In the 5.0 World First, DRK has been chosen because it is the only tank that deal dps just as much as GNB but TBN is far stronger which is NO LONGER THE CASE.


All this time you're just trying to say that only a handful of end game contents matter and the rest is no problem because it is something the casual enjoy not you.


But when WAR doing no healer Ultimate Clear you think it is only because small group of hardcore skilled godly player so it don't prove how the job is op.


Getting proud by polishing a turd didn't make you a badass it reflect your intelligence and reveal your standard.

[Reginald_Cain]

Big sword goes brrrrrrr. Dark knight is a lot better with modern living dead and if i were to change it's defensive profile at all I'd make tbn a lower level skill and give it an upgrade that makes the shield stronger and gives blood price when it pops or expires. That way it's dps neutral or a gain to ise.

[Supersnow845]

Big sword goes brrrrrrr. Dark knight is a lot better with modern living dead and if i were to change it's defensive profile at all I'd make tbn a lower level skill and give it an upgrade that makes the shield stronger and gives blood price when it pops or expires. That way it's dps neutral or a gain to ise.

And just like that one of the three flashes of pre ShB design left across 21 jobs vanishes in an instant

will SCH and BRD hold the line

You seem confused, Why would anyone need to hire you to prove the fact that YOU want to prove?


Fact is Dark Knight has been the most complained tank design by the player since 5.0 and I love the fact that THE WORLD FIRST HEALER shoved the fact that the living dead suck on your face and you can't say otherwise anymore.


There is something funny about the egotistic and self-centered handful of player base got slapped by the alpha.


In the 5.0 World First, DRK has been chosen because it is the only tank that deal dps just as much as GNB but TBN is far stronger which is NO LONGER THE CASE.


All this time you're just trying to say that only a handful of end game contents matter and the rest is no problem because it is something the casual enjoy not you.


But when WAR doing no healer Ultimate Clear you think it is only because small group of hardcore skilled godly player so it don't prove how the job is op.


Getting proud by polishing a turd didn't make you a badass it reflect your intelligence and reveal your standard.

Have you considered the opposite point, if you believe there is such a vast difference between DRK and the other 3 is DRK not the one in the correct location

[The_User]

Big sword goes brrrrrrr. Dark knight is a lot better with modern living dead and if i were to change it's defensive profile at all I'd make tbn a lower level skill and give it an upgrade that makes the shield stronger and gives blood price when it pops or expires. That way it's dps neutral or a gain to ise.

LD would never getting any change if The Top player didn't help breaking the manipulative deception on that day.



And please, I get why some people might fall in love with it now that they get to taste what being WAR is like for 10s.


But this same OP and unnecessary enormous healing potency is wasted.


It isn't what the majority asked for, but rather something that one user came up with what he thought would be cool and post it, then surprise, surprise ffxiv developer who at the time got a waking call from the world first player decided to make a band aid rework which again, like what they did in the past, didn't fix the problem at the root. Walking dead is still here causing the headache for us whenever it got prevented by the healer. On top of that the other player began using LD absurd heal to justified and silenced DRK player whenever we say DRK lacking a proper healing tool.

Have you considered the opposite point, if you believe there is such a vast difference between DRK and the other 3 is DRK not the one in the correct location

If so, please elaborate.