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    Reginald_Cain's Avatar
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    Reginald Cain
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    Exodus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Carighan View Post
    Yeah, you know, now that you mention it, the 15s CDs were quite weak back then. On account of that only being TBN. (you probably typo'd and meant to write 25s CDs? :P )

    Because yes it was Shadowbringers that turned the short-CDs into a "real thing" on other tanks than DRK, the idea being that they in fact had stronger short-CDs, but DRK could use theirs a lot more often (15s CD vs 25s CD or ~30ish effective CD for Paladin).
    Yeah 25s my b. Anyway the blackest night hasn't changed much since stormblood and back then it felt insanely strong. Now it's kinda outshined by heart of corundum, nascent flash and even intervention on allies because they can provide % damage reduction and healing. Tbn still feels incredible when it saves a life but it i hope it gets more interesting. It doesnt have to heal but maybe make it have alternative benefits for breaking it vs having it fade. Fade provides mana refund but no edge of shadow. Break provides mana and edge of shadow. Make the shield scale off the dark knights hp unless the target has more. I like dark knight being a damage centric tank with a strong shield + bonus magic resistance for the group. If dark knight can get 5 stacks of blood weapon back too that'd be great. Make torcleaver combo 5 parts that'd be sick. Also bring back the skill speed buff on blood weapon and be in heaven. Honestly if you want to make dark knight a drain tank like warrior just put abyssal drain back on the gcd. I feel like that's over kill and would rather they put life steal on blood weapon.
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reginald_Cain View Post
    Yeah 25s my b. Anyway the blackest night hasn't changed much since stormblood and back then it felt insanely strong.
    TBN during Stormblood just felt more impactful in general.
    Besides defensives being generally weaker you also had an abundance of MP compared to now, you had actual interplay between your blood gauge and your MP so the 50 blood on TBN break felt like a bigger reward than just a free use of a relatively bland oGCD.

    Basically, despite it's issues SB Dark Knight was just a more interesting job.
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    Carighan's Avatar
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    Carighan Maconar
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reginald_Cain View Post
    Yeah 25s my b. Anyway the blackest night hasn't changed much since stormblood and back then it felt insanely strong.
    Yeah.

    I mean I get why the positive feedback about TBN led the devs to give other tanks "super mini CDs", too. And I get the idea behind DRK having the "simpler" one but on a 40% shorter CD, but since it also costs mana that doesn't really work out in practice, plus with the shield being based on the target HP not our own even on others, it loses a lot of its luster compared to the other tank CDs that don't have this negative scaling system.
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