Aetherwell should not be tied to the level of the duty

[Hanayumi]

If any the bonus should just give the offset so its roughly the same no matter what you get, high bonus on lower level stuff and lower bonus on high level stuff.

[Avoidy]

bro this aetherwell experience has completely blackpilled me on the tomestone grind approach going forward
i apologize. i was one of those people asking for a more interesting relic grind experience than tomes, but if this is their answer to that then yeah, no, never mind, just make it tomes. tomes were essentially just roulettes too, but at least there were other things to do for tomes that could break it up. this is just 4 arbitrarily picked roulettes, some of which are the worst roulettes that people avoid for a reason btw, only now it's more limited than ever and feels soft-timegated to boot. i don't know how these guys did it, but they managed to produce something worse than a tomestone grind. and once it's over, all that's left is yet another tomestone grind!
so, congratulations. I never thought I'd say it, but hit me with the tomes. jesus christ.

i mean, christ, man. Remember in shb? i remember enjoying that one. there were some annoying one time steps, like that CT grind, but iirc you could do other things instead. and plenty of the steps actually involved doing the new bozja content. idk man. it feels like whoever knew how to make things fun got fired or quit because yeah, damn.

[0blivion]

Tbh they should buff the bonus from daily alliance and then make it so you can queue into individual alliance raids and still get your stuff.

[Jeeqbit]

I've enjoyed doing the roulettes so far, but I've had to switch job each day for obvious reasons. I initially dreaded doing the alliance raids, but it's alright once you get used to it.

I've only got CT 2x, WoD 1x, and most of the time have got others, including: Dun Scaith, Rabanastre, Ridorana Lighthouse, Tower (Nier), Aglaia 2x

Tbh they should buff the bonus from daily alliance and then make it so you can queue into individual alliance raids and still get your stuff.

There isn't much stopping you just doing a second queue if it's CT. You can choose to abandon CT or just do it since it's quick. The penalty shouldn't be as bad as when doing Mentor Roulette.

[VeyaAkemi]

There isn't much stopping you just doing a second queue if it's CT. You can choose to abandon CT or just do it since it's quick. The penalty shouldn't be as bad as when doing Mentor Roulette.

This is a huge part of why I don't see this as an issue, if you get CT... you can go again, even if you get CT twice, two CTs should be equal to any other alliance raid, or even more, plus they are so short that doing CT twice should take about the same time, maybe slightly more or less, as doing any other Alliance Raid. The only issue I see is if you are the kind of person who hates CT so much that you refuse doing it, but then the entirety of Alliance Raid Roulette is an issue for you, relic or not.

[Rayne6665]

I don’t leave the roulette don’t put words in my mouth, I’m the one who laughs at people who leave nier raids in alliance chat and leaves CT to give others a free out

Even worse, the other day I saw someone leave DT Jueno First Walk alliance raid in a roulette i guess they don't want the bonus light lmfao

[Supersnow845]

the whole point of the well is to populate roulettes.
and the whole point of roulettes is to populate every content(mainly low level content) to help newer players.

And by and large biased roulettes like the alliance roulette utterly fail this because the barrier to not default to CT is too high

You have to find 24 players that have a higher alliance raid unlocked, are at a level where they can queue into it, are queueing at the same time and aren’t competing with too many people who are also in the roulette only able to pop CT

You can even notice this when you queue for rare alliance raids at off hours, eventually the raid may pop but someone is either AFK or backs out. Then maybe it pops again. Someone backs out again. Then it won’t pop again for hours. Because the roulette at that point decided to take the path of least resistance and dump most of those people who weren’t directly queuing into the path of least resistance- CT

The normal raid roulette suffers from this as well but the roulettes are so biased that they barely even serve their function and the alliance raid definitively does not

[Carin-Eri]

I've enjoyed doing the roulettes so far, but I've had to switch job each day for obvious reasons. I initially dreaded doing the alliance raids, but it's alright once you get used to it.

I've only got CT 2x, WoD 1x, and most of the time have got others, including: Dun Scaith, Rabanastre, Ridorana Lighthouse, Tower (Nier), Aglaia 2x

There isn't much stopping you just doing a second queue if it's CT. You can choose to abandon CT or just do it since it's quick. The penalty shouldn't be as bad as when doing Mentor Roulette.

Same. I've actually be surprised at how consistently Alliance Raids other than CT have popped. That isn't to say it hasn't popped - but I've seen more of 'The Tower at Paradigm's Breach' than I usually do (outside of Mogtome events), had Euphrosyne and Aglaia pop for the first time in ages, and have had Rabanastre a few times too.

I actually really like this - getting to play AR's that don't usually 'pop' otherwise has been quite refreshing - particularly the Myths of the Realms ones (which are a personal favorite of mine), which never usually pop via Roulette and don't pop if you queue them individually.

[Reginald_Cain]

I think the highest level duties should drop 4x the amount and same for the longest 24 man raids..... and if forcefully dropping out of eg. alliance raid and the likes or not doing anything inside 24 hour penalty for aetherpool.

Ivalice and above should give insanely high aether imo

[TaleraRistain]

It didn't appear to be based on the level of the duty. I got less for Jeuno than for Nier. I believe there's a thread here that broke down numbers and general consensus was that it was based on average completion time. That would make sense because Nier automatically takes longer than any other alliance raid due to damage sponge bosses.

They do need to reconsider the approach if they do this for future steps, though.