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    Doki's Avatar
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    Doki Waku
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 100

    "New content" should not be forced farm of 10 year old content at this point...

    While I understand there has to be incentives to do old content in order to keep them populated enough for newer players to queue through, we are definitely at a point now where everyone has run ARR, Heavensward, & Stormblood content thousands of times if not more. Shadowbringers & Endwalker content too, kind of, but even those expansions had "Go farm the old stuff a lot" stuff framed as something to look forward to as part of a new patch.

    I know Yoshida has admitted they need to shake up the formula recently in an interview, I just hope CB3 can come up with SOMETHING else to do.
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    Lucaon Soho
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    Odin
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Doki View Post
    While I understand there has to be incentives to do old content in order to keep them populated enough for newer players to queue through, we are definitely at a point now where everyone has run ARR, Heavensward, & Stormblood content thousands of times if not more. Shadowbringers & Endwalker content too, kind of, but even those expansions had "Go farm the old stuff a lot" stuff framed as something to look forward to as part of a new patch.

    I know Yoshida has admitted they need to shake up the formula recently in an interview, I just hope CB3 can come up with SOMETHING else to do.
    I disagree.

    It should absolutely use old content, but provide appropriate rewards to the user based on their level. I want to see more of this happening, so the previous area doesn't become a barren wasteland where only new players/ alts are. All zones should have at all times a mix of players, from new to the game to vets.
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    technole's Avatar
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 72
    Relics always fund old content in the game, the exception of Eureka which was pretty solid way to build community since everyone was always in there, and they decided against that again with no OC requirement.
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    AmiableApkallu's Avatar
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    Tatanpa Nononpa
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    Relics always fund old content in the game, the exception of Eureka which was pretty solid way to build community since everyone was always in there, and they decided against that again with no OC requirement.
    Eureka fosters community, or at least loose cooperation, because of how spawning NMs works and their cooldown times.

    Occult Crescent has none of that, so funneling everyone into it wouldn't work well without significant changes or updates to the zone.
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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    im not completely against using old content, but they do it WAY too often.

    also old contents fun factor is ridiculously low. which is a reason why they shouldnt use old content at all
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    without fun jobs none of the content is fun!
    jobs should have their full rotations on lvl 60 or 70! for a better low lvl experience.
    for satisfying glam builduing we need 5 basic glamplates + 2 more for each class / job
    pls give us a proper glam collection like every other mmo has.
    pls upgrade the gear from normal raid and also alliance-raid by 10 ilvl each.
    pls add old glowy ex trial weapons for new jobs!
    and for gods sake pls give as the ability to preview any hairstyle on our own character!

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    Atreus Auditore
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I'm perfectly fine doing old content. I just want that content to feel fun to play and it doesn't.
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    Ephremjlm Molina
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    Not much of a hot take these days as the veil starts to come off, but the reason why they have to force us to do this old content is because the whole thing was designed poorly. When keeping costs low is at the forefront of your design philosophy then content that has replayability gets cut because its more complicated to develop, instanced one off fights become contents core, and dungeons will continue to have a very formulaic hallway design (that last one is in Yoshi P's own words when questioned about changing dungeons).

    But hey SE will spare no expense remember? Shoulda done it while the getting was good.
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  8. #8
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    Themarvin's Avatar
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    Kurotora Iga
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 100
    the relic points is lesser this lower level dungeon/raid/trial
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    Van Yuuk
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    DT light step has been the genuine only reason I've touched roulettes beyond a daily expert for tome capping. I'll likely be going back to not touching roulettes when I'm done, because the incentive to run roulettes is nonexistant. The gil is paltry, the non-cap tomes don't give me anything I care about, and the EXP for alt jobs is lesser than speedrunning my highest level dungeon with static members (with exceedingly few breakpoint exceptions to meaningfully matter).

    The problem isn't with "running old content", the problem is providing veteran players little to no meaningful incentive to do so. Even the most boring, paint-by-numbers content can be ran at least apathetically if you reward players enough.
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Coeurl
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    Fisher Lv 90
    I agree, they should make more systems they leave by the wayside to rot and become obsolete after a couple of patches, lol.
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