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    Kirutsuki Noel-e'xion
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    Here's whhy new OC relic step is dumb

    So, I get what SE is doing with both allowing the actual relic steps for the 1st weapon you make and then allowing you to buy the rest of the relics with tomestones.

    But first off, the problem there is that you don't allow players who WANT to do the actual relic step for their other relic as well, but hold your horses, the new step is actually just tomestonegrind as well in different visual.

    So while players WOULD want to do generally fun relic steps manually, it's also bad when the relic step is actually mascarading as something else.

    So for those of you who don't know, other relics also had a similar step called "light farming", and when they released they were also limited to duty roulette until eventually those got fixed and you were able to do pretty much any content for the farm.

    Now think about how stupid that is.

    They already know from past feedback on relic steps, that this "light farm" is actually one of the worst experiences due to it's limitations of what you are allowed to do for it.

    So players are literally stuck in duty finder thinking this is somehow better than if it was just tomestone grinding. Atleast with tomestones you could do hunt-trains as well.

    But I guess SE tossed out the memo that the point isn't that it's tomestones, the point was that even tomestone grinding felt monotone at times, and it ALSO holds your tomestones hostage for the relics, so you're missing out on other gear if you buy the relics instead.

    Add to that the fact that you are doing duty roulette where you actually get tomestones so you're just doing the same god damn thing you were doing regardless.

    Please for the love of all that is holy, if you're going to implement a system, first implement in the way that it is portrayed in the game CURRENTLY, don't go back to the old way of limiting it only for duty roulette and then IMPROVE it.

    But nope, instead you did the smallest ammount of work possible and slapped on a relic step from god damn Bozja and called it good.

    Time to wake up and actually try to improve the gameplay experience for your audience.
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    Crafoutis Lesalia
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    Wowzer, some people just weren't built for it.
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    WAR don't get changes because they don't need changes. They only need more enemies to cleave.

  3. #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crafoutis View Post
    Wowzer, some people just weren't built for it.
    I've done two ARR relics and loved those, mostly because alot of the steps allowed the player to go beyond limited duty roulette and choose my own path.
    So what I do is go down the entire dungeonlist until the farm is complete. So my experience will have variety when I need it.
    Duty roulette spam is not variety, you're stuck with specific roulettes.
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    I am not going to waste any more breath on Dawntrail. I hope the lack of content is because they are working damn hard on 8.0 to make up for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yesnt View Post
    I am not going to waste any more breath on Dawntrail.
    She says, while speaking on the forum.
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    WAR don't get changes because they don't need changes. They only need more enemies to cleave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yesnt View Post
    I am not going to waste any more breath on Dawntrail. I hope the lack of content is because they are working damn hard on 8.0 to make up for this.
    This is not a lack of content issue, it's lack of innovation and creativity with systems they already have implemented in the game in the past that were serviceable, but not great.
    And instead of going "hmm how could we add this relic step, but make it more interesting" they went "slap that shit on from there and hope for the best".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crafoutis View Post
    She says, while speaking on the forum.
    I didn't say I wouldn't use the forum anymore? lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirutsuki View Post
    This is not a lack of content issue, it's lack of innovation and creativity with systems they already have implemented in the game in the past that were serviceable, but not great.
    And instead of going "hmm how could we add this relic step, but make it more interesting" they went "slap that shit on from there and hope for the best".
    You're just here now to make the new trial players feel like the game is alive and worth subbing to.
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crafoutis View Post
    She says, while speaking on the forum.
    She'd still be able to post on the forums for up to two weeks after her sub lapses. So...
    (2)
    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crafoutis View Post
    She says, while speaking on the forum.
    She says as she defends the multibillion yen company as it continues to roast its only golden goose, lol.
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