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    Quote Originally Posted by JoyfulSong View Post
    So my FC is at gil cap. We're actually about to be there twice, out of sheer spite, because we keep losing bids.
    At gil cap, you could recruit an awful lot of people to put in an awful lot of bits for your FC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crafoutis View Post
    At Gil Cap, you could recruit an awful lot of people to put in an awful lot of bits for your FC.
    They already said they did that with up to 25-30 of their members bidding, but have lost to smaller fcs, which (granted, I am biased, considering my post's content to begin with) is entirely unfair to do, especially since they said they already own a house but want to move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodiedTongues View Post
    They already said they did that with up to 25-30 of their members bidding, but have lost to smaller fcs, which (granted, I am biased, considering my post's content to begin with) is entirely unfair to do, especially since they said they already own a house but want to move.
    They are being dishonest then, 25-30 people bidding against 'smaller FC's' and losing? For months? How small are these FC's? 4 people? 20 people?

    They're either being hyperbolic or they're lying, it's one of the two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crafoutis View Post
    They are being dishonest then, 25-30 people bidding against 'smaller FC's' and losing? For months? How small are these FC's? 4 people? 20 people?

    They're either being hyperbolic or they're lying, it's one of the two.
    Yes its possible same way people who buy multiple lotto tickets a month win nothing, just for joe nobody to buy one ticket and suddenly win millions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Yes its possible same way people who buy multiple lotto tickets a month win nothing, just for joe nobody to buy one ticket and suddenly win millions.
    Not at all the same probabilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crafoutis View Post
    They are being dishonest then, 25-30 people bidding against 'smaller FC's' and losing? For months? How small are these FC's? 4 people? 20 people?

    They're either being hyperbolic or they're lying, it's one of the two.
    Well golly, it's a good thing I keep receipts, huh? We got our medium last year. Let's walk down memory lane, shall we?




    And that's not including the one we just lost this morning by one digit on Shirogane 29, 16 to – surprise surprise, another 10 man FC.

    These are just the ones we tracked, btw. And that's assuming there's even a large dropping at all. Which most of the time...there isn't. Or it's a personal. I'm sorry I don't agree that an FC with 10 people should get a large because they got lucky over the group of 50-60 people that worked tirelessly only to continue to get shafted by RNG nearly every week. A *year* of meticulously tracking who has what gil, where it went, how much we need, if everybody put it back correctly. Over. And Over. And Over.

    The MOST actual, LITERAL gil cap will get you is 25 tickets. That is, at MOST, at 25% chance to get it, as there's bids of literal hundreds. The HIGHEST percentage chance we've ever had was 31% And you're out here getting onto 50+ man FCs putting in bids when Ward 12 of the Goblet on this server is owned by two people? Dafuq outta here with that.
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    Last edited by JoyfulSong; 10-07-2025 at 06:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoyfulSong View Post
    I'm sorry I don't agree that an FC with 10 people should get a large because they got lucky over the group of 50-60 people that worked tirelessly only to continue to get shafted by RNG nearly every week.
    I feel your struggle. It's tough out there, but as the playerbase wanes right before a patch it's a great time to check for any upgrades you can bid on. Congratulations on your medium!

    However, it's not the 10-person FC's fault that you lost. The lottery is completely equal chance for everyone, and your FC is already allowed to tip the odds in their favor as much as possible by introducing multiple bids. A personal estate bid in a mixed ward is by far the one at the most disadvantage.

    I won't say the system is perfect, or even good, but it is fair.
    Everyone is allowed equal chance, and until SE gives us a more permanent solution such as instanced housing or expanded neighborhoods, this system is by far the least predatory iteration they've made.
    No rushing needed, no putting your health at risk clicking away the hours at a placard, no unfairness related to buying a fresh plot vs. relocating. So I'll give credit where credit is due, this system gets the job done. Now they just need to tackle the medium and large scarcity (which I believe Tardis housing should help alleviate, but won't fix completely)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shistar View Post
    I feel your struggle. It's tough out there, but as the playerbase wanes right before a patch it's a great time to check for any upgrades you can bid on. Congratulations on your medium!

    However, it's not the 10-person FC's fault that you lost. The lottery is completely equal chance for everyone, and your FC is already allowed to tip the odds in their favor as much as possible by introducing multiple bids. A personal estate bid in a mixed ward is by far the one at the most disadvantage.

    I won't say the system is perfect, or even good, but it is fair.
    Everyone is allowed equal chance, and until SE gives us a more permanent solution such as instanced housing or expanded neighborhoods, this system is by far the least predatory iteration they've made.
    No rushing needed, no putting your health at risk clicking away the hours at a placard, no unfairness related to buying a fresh plot vs. relocating. So I'll give credit where credit is due, this system gets the job done. Now they just need to tackle the medium and large scarcity (which I believe Tardis housing should help alleviate, but won't fix completely)
    I noticed everyone asked for the lottery system because it was fair, but when they got it, now players started requesting ways to stack the odds in their favor. Everyone loves fair, when they think it works in their favor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoyfulSong View Post
    Well golly, it's a good thing I keep receipts, huh? We got our medium last year. Let's walk down memory lane, shall we?



    Golly gosh gee williker, those 'receipts' detail absolutely nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crafoutis View Post
    Golly gosh gee williker, those 'receipts' detail absolutely nothing.
    Then you're either blind or illiterate because I see it plainly lol. They posted threads about when they were bidding for a FC plot multiple times. Why are you always so mean such as bragging about winning a large in Exodus when you still have a small in Goblet just to rub it in because someone voiced their frustration from losing? I even checked prior, you have had the same small all this time.
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