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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirutsuki View Post
    No one's talking about changing patch cycle jeesh. Again it would only effect this cycle, not what happens afterwards.
    Obviously if SE decides that now that they have longer time between the expansions they decide to increase the gap between patches, that'd be bad.

    But delaying a single expansion shouldn't effect what happens after in a negative way, the best solution would be that they can do patches beyond .58 since they have more time.
    The same one off 9 month expansion delay basically killed the back half of EW and was basically held together by a hope that DT would be good (it wasn’t)

    I doubt the playerbase would tolerate another of those 9-12 month delays because we are at the point wheee the patch cycle is already so long if they can’t factor in massive changes in 8.0 to the 7.x dev cycle then something is seriously wrong
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    I mean I wouldn't mind waiting if the game was getting a massive overhaul but I don't think that's happening. The amount of time we wait for less content that is one and done, unfinished, or completely misses the mark is unacceptable. Thats why people are leaving. If they actually made a change to this by doing an overhaul coupled with a plan for either content that has more replayability, and better rewards, or shorter patch cycles, then I think a lot less people would complain.
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    Yeah that’s a fair point

    If yoshi p came out and said at the NA fanfest “we are delaying 8.0 by 6 months to do THIS to every job” then presented a comprehensive example overhaul of a class in each major role and launched a test server allowing us to play around with them then I’d actually be fine with a 6 month gap (I’d probably still unsub during it but I’d understand why they are going it)

    But the period of “yoshi p said trust him so I’m going to blind trust him” is long long past

    My above point still stands though that I think these changes should be included in 7.x’s patch cycle but I’d accept the delay if I had tangible evidence of some type of overhaul that shakes out he entire game up
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    If it was, I think it'd be a bad idea for this game. The patch cycle is already hurting the game and if the expansion is going to be 2027 well I can see the sub numbers dropping lower than they are now as people will be tired
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    If yoshi p came out and said at the NA fanfest “we are delaying 8.0 by 6 months to do THIS to every job” then presented a comprehensive example overhaul of a class in each major role and launched a test server allowing us to play around with them then I’d actually be fine with a 6 month gap (I’d probably still unsub during it but I’d understand why they are going it)
    Tbh that idea of a test server for playing job changes is important if the expansion is releasing any later than jan 2027. Letting people get hands on and being made to believe again would go a long ways when compared to words and promises. It's not even just about giving people something to try and getting their feedback closer to the product, it's about the seriousness involved in including people in that type of testing.
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