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    Akamadoshi's Avatar
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    Evander Achilles
    World
    Sophia
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 30
    Hi... as a JP player it is untrue. It is the Japanese player base who requested (Duty complete, weekly reward unclaimed) for example. We only take away (duty complete) if we are confident about beginners joining (or those who know the fight well). However, most of the time, for example, Extremes we do not use PF other than "practice/A2C".. this is because we use raid finder in order to farm. Same for Unreal, you will hardly see PF unless it is not done yet. So you will see many PF without (duty complete) because it is not a 'cleared' PF... I cleared Seiryuu through Raid finder, not Party finder, I had my clear in 1 wipe and retry and then I just que 2x a week to get it done. As for 7.3, the new extreme has very fast DPS que, tanks have a high competition so as a tank your que may take longer. (as of right now). Savage, has been an issue to que, but usually we use raid finder too. This time however, the range/melee composition is too strict and the DPS loss is too severe to que up for reclears so this savage tier has no raid finder.


    What I am saying is: Japanese players are particularly strict about duty completion. I do not know where you got the information of. I just know extreme is lacks in some ways. We also got PF "those who cleared but are not confident" to smooth the raid finder experience. These PF run for hours at times but they are also strictly under "duty complete" to avoid those who think they can clear by watching video only.
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Character
    Thalia Beckford
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Akamadoshi View Post
    Hi... as a JP player it is untrue. It is the Japanese player base who requested (Duty complete, weekly reward unclaimed) for example. We only take away (duty complete) if we are confident about beginners joining (or those who know the fight well). However, most of the time, for example, Extremes we do not use PF other than "practice/A2C".. this is because we use raid finder in order to farm. Same for Unreal, you will hardly see PF unless it is not done yet. So you will see many PF without (duty complete) because it is not a 'cleared' PF... I cleared Seiryuu through Raid finder, not Party finder, I had my clear in 1 wipe and retry and then I just que 2x a week to get it done. As for 7.3, the new extreme has very fast DPS que, tanks have a high competition so as a tank your que may take longer. (as of right now). Savage, has been an issue to que, but usually we use raid finder too. This time however, the range/melee composition is too strict and the DPS loss is too severe to que up for reclears so this savage tier has no raid finder.


    What I am saying is: Japanese players are particularly strict about duty completion. I do not know where you got the information of. I just know extreme is lacks in some ways. We also got PF "those who cleared but are not confident" to smooth the raid finder experience. These PF run for hours at times but they are also strictly under "duty complete" to avoid those who think they can clear by watching video only.
    That was my understanding, that JP uses PF mostly for practice. NA doesn't use Raid Finder at all. We use PF for both practice and clearing and reclearing/farming. So we have a mix of parties that are Duty Complete and not Duty Complete.
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    hamms's Avatar
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    Hammsuke Thunder
    World
    Kujata
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Akamadoshi View Post
    Hi... as a JP player it is untrue. It is the Japanese player base who requested (Duty complete, weekly reward unclaimed) for example. We only take away (duty complete) if we are confident about beginners joining (or those who know the fight well). However, most of the time, for example, Extremes we do not use PF other than "practice/A2C".. this is because we use raid finder in order to farm. Same for Unreal, you will hardly see PF unless it is not done yet. So you will see many PF without (duty complete) because it is not a 'cleared' PF... I cleared Seiryuu through Raid finder, not Party finder, I had my clear in 1 wipe and retry and then I just que 2x a week to get it done. As for 7.3, the new extreme has very fast DPS que, tanks have a high competition so as a tank your que may take longer. (as of right now). Savage, has been an issue to que, but usually we use raid finder too. This time however, the range/melee composition is too strict and the DPS loss is too severe to que up for reclears so this savage tier has no raid finder.


    What I am saying is: Japanese players are particularly strict about duty completion. I do not know where you got the information of. I just know extreme is lacks in some ways. We also got PF "those who cleared but are not confident" to smooth the raid finder experience. These PF run for hours at times but they are also strictly under "duty complete" to avoid those who think they can clear by watching video only.
    Since i'm also playing in JPDC too, i can attest that it's correct, mostly for Extreme and Unreal. Savage can be either DF/PF, Ultimate is only PF. However, from my experience, it seems like people who are using DF means they're very confident not to mess up, because my clear rate using DF is high, in fact it's very high, higher than PF. Not sure if there's an unspoken rule like "DF only if you're confident" or not, but it feels like it.
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