STOP GATEKEEPING PF IN 2025 BE LIKE EU and jp

[Akamadoshi]

Hi... as a JP player it is untrue. It is the Japanese player base who requested (Duty complete, weekly reward unclaimed) for example. We only take away (duty complete) if we are confident about beginners joining (or those who know the fight well). However, most of the time, for example, Extremes we do not use PF other than "practice/A2C".. this is because we use raid finder in order to farm. Same for Unreal, you will hardly see PF unless it is not done yet. So you will see many PF without (duty complete) because it is not a 'cleared' PF... I cleared Seiryuu through Raid finder, not Party finder, I had my clear in 1 wipe and retry and then I just que 2x a week to get it done. As for 7.3, the new extreme has very fast DPS que, tanks have a high competition so as a tank your que may take longer. (as of right now). Savage, has been an issue to que, but usually we use raid finder too. This time however, the range/melee composition is too strict and the DPS loss is too severe to que up for reclears so this savage tier has no raid finder.


What I am saying is: Japanese players are particularly strict about duty completion. I do not know where you got the information of. I just know extreme is lacks in some ways. We also got PF "those who cleared but are not confident" to smooth the raid finder experience. These PF run for hours at times but they are also strictly under "duty complete" to avoid those who think they can clear by watching video only.

[TaleraRistain]

Hi... as a JP player it is untrue. It is the Japanese player base who requested (Duty complete, weekly reward unclaimed) for example. We only take away (duty complete) if we are confident about beginners joining (or those who know the fight well). However, most of the time, for example, Extremes we do not use PF other than "practice/A2C".. this is because we use raid finder in order to farm. Same for Unreal, you will hardly see PF unless it is not done yet. So you will see many PF without (duty complete) because it is not a 'cleared' PF... I cleared Seiryuu through Raid finder, not Party finder, I had my clear in 1 wipe and retry and then I just que 2x a week to get it done. As for 7.3, the new extreme has very fast DPS que, tanks have a high competition so as a tank your que may take longer. (as of right now). Savage, has been an issue to que, but usually we use raid finder too. This time however, the range/melee composition is too strict and the DPS loss is too severe to que up for reclears so this savage tier has no raid finder.


What I am saying is: Japanese players are particularly strict about duty completion. I do not know where you got the information of. I just know extreme is lacks in some ways. We also got PF "those who cleared but are not confident" to smooth the raid finder experience. These PF run for hours at times but they are also strictly under "duty complete" to avoid those who think they can clear by watching video only.

That was my understanding, that JP uses PF mostly for practice. NA doesn't use Raid Finder at all. We use PF for both practice and clearing and reclearing/farming. So we have a mix of parties that are Duty Complete and not Duty Complete.

[hamms]

Hi... as a JP player it is untrue. It is the Japanese player base who requested (Duty complete, weekly reward unclaimed) for example. We only take away (duty complete) if we are confident about beginners joining (or those who know the fight well). However, most of the time, for example, Extremes we do not use PF other than "practice/A2C".. this is because we use raid finder in order to farm. Same for Unreal, you will hardly see PF unless it is not done yet. So you will see many PF without (duty complete) because it is not a 'cleared' PF... I cleared Seiryuu through Raid finder, not Party finder, I had my clear in 1 wipe and retry and then I just que 2x a week to get it done. As for 7.3, the new extreme has very fast DPS que, tanks have a high competition so as a tank your que may take longer. (as of right now). Savage, has been an issue to que, but usually we use raid finder too. This time however, the range/melee composition is too strict and the DPS loss is too severe to que up for reclears so this savage tier has no raid finder.


What I am saying is: Japanese players are particularly strict about duty completion. I do not know where you got the information of. I just know extreme is lacks in some ways. We also got PF "those who cleared but are not confident" to smooth the raid finder experience. These PF run for hours at times but they are also strictly under "duty complete" to avoid those who think they can clear by watching video only.

Since i'm also playing in JPDC too, i can attest that it's correct, mostly for Extreme and Unreal. Savage can be either DF/PF, Ultimate is only PF. However, from my experience, it seems like people who are using DF means they're very confident not to mess up, because my clear rate using DF is high, in fact it's very high, higher than PF. Not sure if there's an unspoken rule like "DF only if you're confident" or not, but it feels like it.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Party Finder in this game is a fucking disaster sometimes. I don’t care if it’s a clear party or a reclear party — stop locking them behind Duty Complete. It makes zero sense. A clear party should let people who still need the achievement in. A reclear party should be for anyone who is clear-ready or who has already cleared. Slapping Duty Complete on top of either one is nothing but pointless gatekeeping, ego stroking, and absolute garbage design by the community.

And let’s be brutally honest: if you’ve got 40+ clears and you’re still throwing Duty Complete on your PF, you’re not protecting anything — you’re just flexing like a middle school bully. The achievement doesn’t magically make your run smooth. Half the time, these “Duty Complete only” parties are still a complete circus of parse animals faceplanting mechanics they’ve done a thousand times, wiping at 2%, screaming for heals. Meanwhile, one actual clear-ready player who actually cares about killing the boss would probably carry harder than another orange-log clown obsessed with padding numbers.

And the real punchline? The C41 “need clear” people who STILL lock behind Duty Complete. Like bro… YOU need the clear. YOU literally haven’t done it yet. But you’re blocking everyone else who’s also capable? That’s not logic — that’s begging for a carry while pretending you’re above it. PF becomes a graveyard because of clowns like this.

If you think NA PF is bad, look at EU and JP PF. They don’t gatekeep with Duty Complete nearly as much, and people actually take mechanics seriously. If you perform poorly there, you WILL get flamed — you can’t hide behind “Duty Complete” as a shield. Meanwhile, NA PF is a trash heap of ego-driven carry-seekers and orange-log obsessed clowns who think an achievement icon equals skill.

Clear party, reclear party, who gives a damn — stop with the “Duty Complete only

Then make your own party and put your own conditions, it's not difficult..

[pathetica]

Your take is very based and kindly. People should take example from you in PF.

Also yes if you do not do well in EU pf you will be told and taught, this is exactly what made me into a somewhat competent healer shield or regen! I will always appreciate people who will
give criticism [minus the ego typing, like get a grip lol].

[Reimmi]

Party Finder in this game is a fucking disaster sometimes. I don’t care if it’s a clear party or a reclear party — stop locking them behind Duty Complete. It makes zero sense. A clear party should let people who still need the achievement in. A reclear party should be for anyone who is clear-ready or who has already cleared. Slapping Duty Complete on top of either one is nothing but pointless gatekeeping, ego stroking, and absolute garbage design by the community.

And let’s be brutally honest: if you’ve got 40+ clears and you’re still throwing Duty Complete on your PF, you’re not protecting anything — you’re just flexing like a middle school bully. The achievement doesn’t magically make your run smooth. Half the time, these “Duty Complete only” parties are still a complete circus of parse animals faceplanting mechanics they’ve done a thousand times, wiping at 2%, screaming for heals. Meanwhile, one actual clear-ready player who actually cares about killing the boss would probably carry harder than another orange-log clown obsessed with padding numbers.

And the real punchline? The C41 “need clear” people who STILL lock behind Duty Complete. Like bro… YOU need the clear. YOU literally haven’t done it yet. But you’re blocking everyone else who’s also capable? That’s not logic — that’s begging for a carry while pretending you’re above it. PF becomes a graveyard because of clowns like this.

If you think NA PF is bad, look at EU and JP PF. They don’t gatekeep with Duty Complete nearly as much, and people actually take mechanics seriously. If you perform poorly there, you WILL get flamed — you can’t hide behind “Duty Complete” as a shield. Meanwhile, NA PF is a trash heap of ego-driven carry-seekers and orange-log obsessed clowns who think an achievement icon equals skill.

Clear party, reclear party, who gives a damn — stop with the “Duty Complete only

Reclears by design want a smooth run with people who've cleared already
If you want a clear party without the tag, you can always make your own group you know?

[Eorinn]

game is boring atm and I have extra gametime, so I'm gonna gatekeep pfs in NA

[Kohashi]

And let’s be brutally honest: if you’ve got 40+ clears and you’re still throwing Duty Complete on your PF, you’re not protecting anything — you’re just flexing like a middle school bully.

Wait what?????? What is this nonsense about?

Why exactly do I want to waste my time with somebody "ready" to clear when re-clear parties are still an absolute nightmare on their own?

By the way, boo boo, make your own damn party with your own rules. You don't have to join any party when you can create your own.

[0blivion]

nah ngl i can't be bothered to have anyone disrespect my time, if i wanna reclear, i wont let in ppl who havent cleared, lol. if someone sends me a tell i may consider it depending on how convincing they are and what i know about them, but by default? duty complete.