Why are there still Garleans in the old castrums post EW?

[Catwho]

We had a discussion while hanging out on the water park ship in Costa del Sol that the Garlean castrum up in the mountain are probably losing their minds over it.

How the hell are they still there? They have no commanders. They are probably low on supplies.

We talked about turning them into squatters and sticking them in civilian clothes if you are past EW, but keeping their titles the same.

And if you are going to fight them for stuff like ARR books or the old GC hunting logs, then you're fighting former Garleans who will mug you (or other adventurers.)

[ViinaS]

Making more than a single map for everyone at any point of progression of MSQ would detract time away from putting things in the cash shop,
and they sure won't do that.

It's way more important a new 20+ bucks mount or 5 new glam sets are on the shop to SE.

[Catwho]

Making more than a single map for everyone at any point of progression of MSQ would detract time away from putting things in the cash shop,
and they sure won't do that.

It's way more important a new 20+ bucks mount or 5 new glam sets are on the shop to SE.

They don't even need to make a new map, they just need to make the same mob have a slightly different appearance.

Or just disappear completely if you literally had 0 quests left to do with them.

[MicahZerrshia]

What the heck all those Garleans are STILL doing in Azys Lla is an even bigger question. It's like SE thought they were old content instead of npcs and promptly forgot about them.

And you're right, we can run around the same maps and have that map be in different states according to our own progression, which is why things like this just make 0 sense.

[Yuella]

Private security

[Toranja]

Allow me to give SE an escape route on this matter:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_holdout

But I agree with the sentiment of everyone above. However, I should note that at least the Zodiac Braves books will need to be reworked to remove the Garlean enemies.

As for the troops in Azys La, I'm pretty sure they botched that storyline.

[MaikoRaines]

Let's not forget the Consulate in Kugane.

[Cleretic]

Mechanically speaking, they just don't have the tech; I suspect FFXIV's zone phasing tech can't do more than cosmetic changes and shifting around NPCs, so they can't have hostile mobs abandon the castrum. Not that I think anyone actually wants them to, because to do so would actually kinda break things. Hunting logs would become uncompletable, certain items like Garlean Rubber would become unobtainable.

And as Toranja points out, there is some level of historical precedence; there's the Japanese holdouts, but I suspect this might also have an element of, like, U.S. military bases in previously-hostile countries; you can't quite get rid of them. ...also, I feel like it'd be rude to do it at this point, those castrums are now MUCH better living spaces than Garlemald is.

Let's not forget the Consulate in Kugane.

The consulate, on the other hand, makes complete sense. Garlemald's still a nation, they still have a consulate in a political capacity! If anything those guys are probably busier right now.

[Yuella]

The consulate, on the other hand, makes complete sense. Garlemald's still a nation, they still have a consulate in a political capacity! If anything those guys are probably busier right now.

But they still call us "savage", after all we've done for them.

[Cleretic]

But they still call us "savage", after all we've done for them.

Yeah, unfortunately even if we could punch the racism out of a person, we haven't done it to the Garlean consulate.

In fact, broadly knowing what I do about consulates and embassies it makes complete sense those guys are still mad; they were probably loyalists given a cushy job for their service, and they're literally an entire continent away from the negative repercussions of what Garlemald faced after Stormblood. Genuinely, their life probably hasn't changed (aside from, again, probably handling a lot more stuff from Garleans in the region than they used to), and they're likely exactly the same stuck-up superior types that we dealt with in late 6.x.

We've done nothing for the people in that consulate aside from kill their boss(es).