Alliance Raid- Extreme verison

[MayuAmakura]

Chaotic was fun at the start. I actually had more clears when Chaotic was released than now. Even with everyone having much better gear and item level, they are still struggling to clear this or fail at enrage. Actually people now fail even harder on enrage than it was back then with minimum item level. It's crazy I know. Now It's completely dead and when you find one, it's either;

- Hard to fill, so people leave. Waiting is around 1-2 hours
- After one wipe, its raid over
- People keep failing on simple mechanics for 1000th time even though they have a clear status. That is one incredible bit.

So it was a failure in my opinion. Specially since the mount you want requires 99 materia I which is hard to obtain and Materia II is also hard to obtain. It was "easy" back then as it would reward you more with new players in. But people liked to gatekeep this and kick half of raid who wasn't eligible,etc. Was painful to clear with new people.

[angienessyo]

Chaotic was fun at the start. I actually had more clears when Chaotic was released than now. Even with everyone having much better gear and item level, they are still struggling to clear this or fail at enrage. Actually people now fail even harder on enrage than it was back then with minimum item level. It's crazy I know. Now It's completely dead and when you find one, it's either;

- Hard to fill, so people leave. Waiting is around 1-2 hours
- After one wipe, its raid over
- People keep failing on simple mechanics for 1000th time even though they have a clear status. That is one incredible bit.

So it was a failure in my opinion. Specially since the mount you want requires 99 materia I which is hard to obtain and Materia II is also hard to obtain. It was "easy" back then as it would reward you more with new players in. But people liked to gatekeep this and kick half of raid who wasn't eligible,etc. Was painful to clear with new people.

Yeah I basically gave up on Chaotic. I enjoyed the fight quite a bit and clearing it was fun. But farming it was a miserable experience because it took forever to get people and 1-2 people could wipe the raid. It was content that was guaranteed to die extremely fast even if it was actually a fun fight. I don't think body checks were the play when there's that many people. Our raiding community isn't really big enough to make that kind of content design sustainable. Once the really dedicated people finished their clears and moved on, it basically became impossible to get more clears in. You can still farm normal EX trials a year after they've been relevant because you can still easily stumble to the finish line regardless of player skill level, the same couldn't be said for chaotic.

On paper I was really in favor of a harder large scale raid because I enjoyed BA+DRS. But I only had to clear those 2 once to get the mount so I didn't have to suffer waiting around for an eternity for a party for multiple clears.