Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

[ElysiumDragon]

You can tell the people who've never played Genshin Impact by the people complaining about Wuk Lamat being 'omnipresent'. Because don't get me wrong, she was clingier than I'd like, but she's nothing compared to whatever Paimon was, and Paimon had genuinely the most ear-grating VA work humanly possible for almost 5 years.

[Zackneifein]

You can tell the people who've never played Genshin Impact by the people complaining about Wuk Lamat being 'omnipresent'. Because don't get me wrong, she was clingier than I'd like, but she's nothing compared to whatever Paimon was, and Paimon had genuinely the most ear-grating VA work humanly possible for almost 5 years.

Well yes, I never played Genshin Impact, but from what I know, while the Lore is sometimes complimented, neither the general story nor the storytelling was renown in Genshin Impact, unlike FFXIV.

And even more from what I understand, this Paimon is more or like the "guideline NPC" basically the tutorial NPC, not unlike Navi in Ocarina of Time... so always being there is quite logical.

[ElysiumDragon]

Well yes, I never played Genshin Impact, but from what I know, while the Lore is sometimes complimented, neither the general story nor the storytelling was renown in Genshin Impact, unlike FFXIV.

And even more from what I understand, this Paimon is more or like the "guideline NPC" basically the tutorial NPC, not unlike Navi in Ocarina of Time... so always being there is quite logical.

The lore's surprisingfly interesting, the storytelling is kinda bad though, and said 'flying tutorial' repeats practically every single line AND had the most annoying, high-pitched voice humanly possible. To the point the entire fanbase was ecstatic about her eventually getting recast.

To me, that is the standard of bad VA work and character writing, so Wuk Lamat being a bit clingy and having a couple of flubbed lines is a relief by comparision. Don't get me wrong, I get why people might not like the shonen protagonist, it's an acquired taste, but crashing out for over 300 pages definitely raises an eyebrow.

[PharisHanasaki]

You can tell the people who've never played Genshin Impact by the people complaining about Wuk Lamat being 'omnipresent'. Because don't get me wrong, she was clingier than I'd like, but she's nothing compared to whatever Paimon was, and Paimon had genuinely the most ear-grating VA work humanly possible for almost 5 years.

I don't see how that should make it any better for any of us, or why it matters. There are other threads, you don't have to post in every one of them, or force yourself to give any opinions. Her VA was awful. Whether it was the direction or their poor acting skills, the reality is the delivery was lacking. I switched to Japanese for the first time since I started playing in 2015. And as a Latin American, I am offended that instead of adding variation and flavor to the VA by hiring a LA actor (or someone with LA ancestry) to an expansion pretty much based on South America, they hired some person from Brooklyn to fake an obnoxious and stupid accent.

I just came back, after attempting for the 3rd time to finish that last trial at the end of 7.1, I finally pushed through, skimmed through the dialogues, and got into 7.2. I don't know what changed, but I could tell right away the writing got better. I'm fully glad that we finally get some time away from Wuk Lamat. I'm hoping 7.3 keeps her on the side.

[Zackneifein]

The lore's surprisingfly interesting, the storytelling is kinda bad though, and said 'flying tutorial' repeats practically every single line AND had the most annoying, high-pitched voice humanly possible. To the point the entire fanbase was ecstatic about her eventually getting recast.

To me, that is the standard of bad VA work and character writing, so Wuk Lamat being a bit clingy and having a couple of flubbed lines is a relief by comparision. Don't get me wrong, I get why people might not like the shonen protagonist, it's an acquired taste, but crashing out for over 300 pages definitely raises an eyebrow.

I can understand but once again, one is the literal MC of the whole MSQ overshadowing our character in a game where even when out of the spotlight, they mattered at least a little (and not in Dawntrail) and the other is a guideline NPC that is annoying because guideline NPCs are annoying, like the Navi was in OOT. The only example that I know that is liked is Ghost in Destiny.

And the VA is just one of the problems and the least important for the vast majority of the people that didn't like Wuk Lamat - even more when I know you are talking only about the english version, and was more about direction than performance itself, something proven by the fact they remade some lines that were quite pathetic like the "Sphene, listen to me". And the french, german and japanese version are quite good.

You are focalising on that even if it's just one minor thing on the list of problems Wuk Lamat has or provoked.

[Mawlzy]

I hope this has been mentioned before, but the title of this malingering thread is clearly false.

It completely neglects the miserable writing of many other characters, not to mention the meandering nothingness of the entire plot development, all of which made significant contributions to the ruination of the entire DT story.

Please stop giving Wuk Lamat more credit than she is due. The disaster of Dawntrail required the concerted effort of so many individuals, both fictitious and real, all of whom should share in the credit for this sad demise.

[TaleraRistain]

The lore's surprisingfly interesting, the storytelling is kinda bad though, and said 'flying tutorial' repeats practically every single line AND had the most annoying, high-pitched voice humanly possible. To the point the entire fanbase was ecstatic about her eventually getting recast.

To me, that is the standard of bad VA work and character writing, so Wuk Lamat being a bit clingy and having a couple of flubbed lines is a relief by comparision. Don't get me wrong, I get why people might not like the shonen protagonist, it's an acquired taste, but crashing out for over 300 pages definitely raises an eyebrow.

This is FFXIV though and not Genshin and the treatment of this character in this expansion is completely out of the norm for how they present NPCs in this game. This game is the adventures of the Warrior of Light and is usually from their perspective. They usually are the ones interacting with the world. And they're also part of an ensemble cast where they and NPCs have their strengths emphasized and their weaknesses made up for by other cast members. Even the WoL doesn't usually overshadow everyone else the way Wuk Lamat did this expansion.

7.2's writing for her is much better because it lets her shine in the places that she's good at, and brings in the NPCs and WoL character for the places where they are good at. Usually our spot is the one hitting things really hard until they stop being bad but we're also pretty good at inspiring others and bringing people together.

[Broskie]

I call it Wuk no Jutsu. Everyone gets tempered by her and have no opposing views to her, or if they do, they vanish after a bit of a dose of good ol' wuk no jutsu. It causes villains to do 180's, it causes everyone to adore her and forget their own goals and co-exist within her world, even her brothers own passions and goals got erased and devoured by Wuk no jutsu's papa peace project.

Now that is a good naming for it. God what happened? how did we go from shadowbringers to this??

[ValusArmaros]

7.3... No more talk about peace, no more tacos, no more Wuk Lamat...We're finally free.

[Oizen]

The fact that wuk got bloody hands and passed out after hitting a barrier a few times felt like they were trying to downplay and course correct from the monstrosity they created.

How could a character who can rip through "rifts in realitee" then solo the final boss lose to a wall?