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    Apparently 'Winterer' is capitalized in all languages, likely meaning it's the name of their faction. So I don't think they literally have to do with the cold or winter, and instead a more metaphorical winter. To pair it with Gossan's 'thawing' comment, I think it could be fun if 8.0 took place somewhere that survived a "harsh winter," and life is now bouncing back. Meracydia perhaps...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mallleable View Post
    Apparently 'Winterer' is capitalized in all languages, likely meaning it's the name of their faction. So I don't think they literally have to do with the cold or winter, and instead a more metaphorical winter. To pair it with Gossan's 'thawing' comment, I think it could be fun if 8.0 took place somewhere that survived a "harsh winter," and life is now bouncing back. Meracydia perhaps...
    Yeah, 'Winterer' is a funny word like that. Just form looking at the word you reflexively associate it with the season, and therefore 'snow, ice, cold', but it's not actually about that, a winterer is 'someone who goes away during the winter'. And you wouldn't exactly associate a hummingbird with snow and ice--in fact, the fact you don't is kind of the point of wintering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    Yeah, 'Winterer' is a funny word like that. Just form looking at the word you reflexively associate it with the season, and therefore 'snow, ice, cold', but it's not actually about that, a winterer is 'someone who goes away during the winter'. And you wouldn't exactly associate a hummingbird with snow and ice--in fact, the fact you don't is kind of the point of wintering.
    Jumping in, as I finished MSQ this morning. While I don't remember the word being capitalized in French, I remember it being in italics. Maybe I'm wrong...

    The word is odd in French too, which is not a language as neologism-friendly as English is. They chose "hivernautes" which doesn't exist in French.
    The suffix -naute means "explorer", as in "astronaute" or Argonauts (in the golden fleece myth, that's the name of the Argo crew).
    Now there is a subtlety in the choice of "hivern-" instead of "hibern-" to create the word. "HiBerner" is the same as the English hibernate, it means sleeping through the winter. "HiVerner" means to spend the winter, usually somewhere different than the rest of the year (like birds migrating).
    Yet, the word for winter is "hiver", and the "-naute" suffix has to be attached to a noun, and not a verb so I think it's just that : explorer/navigator of the winter

    I like to geek on linguistics lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansion View Post
    Jumping in, as I finished MSQ this morning. While I don't remember the word being capitalized in French, I remember it being in italics. Maybe I'm wrong...

    The word is odd in French too, which is not a language as neologism-friendly as English is. They chose "hivernautes" which doesn't exist in French.
    The suffix -naute means "explorer", as in "astronaute" or Argonauts (in the golden fleece myth, that's the name of the Argo crew).
    Now there is a subtlety in the choice of "hivern-" instead of "hibern-" to create the word. "HiBerner" is the same as the English hibernate, it means sleeping through the winter. "HiVerner" means to spend the winter, usually somewhere different than the rest of the year (like birds migrating).
    Yet, the word for winter is "hiver", and the "-naute" suffix has to be attached to a noun, and not a verb so I think it's just that : explorer/navigator of the winter

    I like to geek on linguistics lol
    That's a very interesting name. I wonder what other languages used?

    EDIT: Okay, Japanese just uses "winterer" in katakana. IDK about German....
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