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    Aniise's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryson View Post
    no such thing as female or male clothes.
    ...also wrote this:

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    tits, small waist, wide hips have nothing to do with gender? are you ok?
    It's no use arguing with someone who can't even understand that men and women do have different bodyshapes and as such, they do need differently shaped clothes. This also true ingame, some of the clothes are clearly designed for female characters to wear them and don't look as good on male characters. Take wide shoulders for example...they totally change how an outfit which was made for a specific bodytype looks on you.

    That being said, I can somehow understand the frustration of OP. I feel like a lot of gear, not all of it though, is being designed with female characters in mind, males..not so much, except maybe some glamour sets. Especially if you play a mage/healer. I understand their posts as the wish for more neutral looking gear.
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    Ube Icecream
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniise View Post
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    It's no use arguing with someone who can't even understand that men and women do have different bodyshapes and as such, they do need differently shaped clothes. This also true ingame, some of the clothes are clearly designed for female characters to wear them and don't look as good on male characters. Take wide shoulders for example...they totally change how an outfit which was made for a specific bodytype looks on you.

    That being said, I can somehow understand the frustration of OP. I feel like a lot of gear, not all of it though, is being designed with female characters in mind, males..not so much, except maybe some glamour sets. Especially if you play a mage/healer. I understand their posts as the wish for more neutral looking gear.
    Those aren't mutually exclusive?
    The top comment is saying clothes aren't inherently gendered. That's not to say clothing can't be tailored to fit a certain demographic. Those aren't contradictory. A t-shirt isn't inherently gendered, but can be tailored, such that, it disproportinately fits a certain body type.

    The bottom comment is a scientific fact... none of those descriptors have anything to do with gender. They were conflating biological sex with gender. That's not my problem they don't know what the words mean. No one dispusted the claim that men and women can be shaped differently. I'm saying, people can be shaped differently, whether they are of the same gender or not. Chinese women on average aren't the same shape as women from Latvia. Men from Vietnam, on average, aren't the same shape as Men from Hawaii, Tonga, Samoa, Aotearoa etc etc. It's reductive to boil down variance to merely genders.
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    Last edited by Bryson; 08-09-2025 at 03:30 AM.