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    Quote Originally Posted by Darty123 View Post
    What ? Yes there is lol. Women and men have different body shapes this is a silly comment
    people* irrespective of gender have different body shapes. gender has nothing to do with anatomy. You're conflating gender with biological sex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryson View Post
    people* irrespective of gender have different body shapes. gender has nothing to do with anatomy. You're conflating gender with biological sex.
    Men and women are not people to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yesnt View Post
    Men and women are not people to you?
    I changed it to people* because those differences also occur within the same genders. Their argument was one of anatomy and reducing body difference solely down to gender. Anatomy has nothing to do with gender.

    an average male from vietnam is shaped differently than an average male from samoa. an average female from china is shaped differently than an average female from latvia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryson View Post
    I changed it to people* because those differences also occur within the same genders. Their argument was one of anatomy and reducing body difference solely down to gender. Anatomy has nothing to do with gender.

    an average male from vietnam is shaped differently than an average male from samoa. an average female from china is shaped differently than an average female from latvia.
    Yeah, we have different shapes in the game too. The races have different body shapes and you can pick male or female character models. If you haven't noticed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yesnt View Post
    Yeah, we have different shapes in the game too. The races have different body shapes and you can pick male or female character models. If you haven't noticed.
    I never argued otherwise? All i've said is clothes aren't gendered in it of themselves. In the context of ffxiv, glam can obviously be restricted on the basis of gender, but that's done so arbitrarily.. it's not some objective metric.
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