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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    CE’s have a 20% drop rate. While there isn’t exactly an even distribution of CE’s on average you will get one per 5 CE’s. Let assume due to duplicates the average person needs 1.5 times as many atma’s as the baseline of 18 (so 27). 27 atma at one per 5 is 135 CE’s. It takes 100 CE’s to get enough silver to get one set of +0 gear (and another 90 to get enough silver for +1)

    So the average player will get all atma either before or around when they get one set of +1 gear. That is not remotely a hard grind. You basically auto complete it progressing in the zone

    Fates are 4 times less likely to drop atma but award 6.7 times less silver which means factoring in fates you are even more likely to complete the relic before you complete a +1 set
    Imagine if RNG always rolled on the averages.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Don't like grinds? Then you can do whatever option the game gives you that doesn't involve one such as crafted weapons. Even right this moment, Augmented Crafted weapons are better than relics.
    No, I actually like grinds when I do enjoy the content. Funny how it goes.
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    Andreas Cestelle
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Imagine if RNG always rolled on the averages.



    No, I actually like grinds when I do enjoy the content. Funny how it goes.
    Yes that’s why I said average

    So for every person here claiming they have done 01959206&1&59169295828581851969 fates and gotten 0 Demiatma putting them 11 standard deviations from the mean there is 2000 people who had a completely normal experience and now are pointlessly accumulating relics with tomestones
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess