Here we go again

[Mawlzy]

i hope the people whose reflexes are apparently too slow for xiv's combat don't drive or anything.

Lest this keeps you awake at night, I can confirm I no longer drive. But keep twisting the knife!

On a side topic, I'm amazed at the passion some of you have for dungeons given the combination of fast-paced DDR with a slow server tick, chronic snapshotting, and a 2.5s GCD is one of the dumbest combat design choices I've ever encountered.

Players have come here to express their struggles with the game. They are shot down by people whom they have never met telling them what they are capable of. Invalidating the experience shared by others is mean arrogance.

If the requests by some of us for an easier MSQ mode would have any impact whatsoever on those who prefer more of a challenge, I would understand the barbs being thrown. But that is not the case!

One simple solution among many is to allow Duty Support NPCs to rez players. Problem completely solved.

Worried this would be a fast-track to get loot? Fine, make this a no-loot mode.

Worried you will have to carry players "who never learned how to clear braindead content"? Don't be. We're not attempting any harder content and DS is being added to all normal content.

If an option to make MSQ content easier for those who desire it is not added, player numbers will continue to fall. How do you suppose SE will respond? More $40 glam outfits in the store? More apologies for the lack of content because of "costs"? Putting the game in genuine maintenance mode?

If one of the "git gud, braindead content, skill issue, you just suck" crowd can explain to me how they will be negatively impacted by a DS rez option, I would really like to hear it. Because in the absence of such an explanation... Hmmm. I'd get banned if I completed that thought and I currently have forum permissions for another 18 days.

[Altina_Orion]

Lest this keeps you awake at night, I can confirm I no longer drive. But keep twisting the knife!

On a side topic, I'm amazed at the passion some of you have for dungeons given the combination of fast-paced DDR with a slow server tick, chronic snapshotting, and a 2.5s GCD is one of the dumbest combat design choices I've ever encountered.

Players have come here to express their struggles with the game. They are shot down by people whom they have never met telling them what they are capable of. Invalidating the experience shared by others is mean arrogance.

If the requests by some of us for an easier MSQ mode would have any impact whatsoever on those who prefer more of a challenge, I would understand the barbs being thrown. But that is not the case!

One simple solution among many is to allow Duty Support NPCs to rez players. Problem completely solved.

Worried this would be a fast-track to get loot? Fine, make this a no-loot mode.

Worried you will have to carry players "who never learned how to clear braindead content"? Don't be. We're not attempting any harder content and DS is being added to all normal content.

If an option to make MSQ content easier for those who desire it is not added, player numbers will continue to fall. How do you suppose SE will respond? More $40 glam outfits in the store? More apologies for the lack of content because of "costs"? Putting the game in genuine maintenance mode?

If one of the "git gud, braindead content, skill issue, you just suck" crowd can explain to me how they will be negatively impacted by a DS rez option, I would really like to hear it. Because in the absence of such an explanation... Hmmm. I'd get banned if I completed that thought and I currently have forum permissions for another 18 days.

And yet, OSRS and WoW are significantly harder gamers and have far more active players.

[Mawlzy]

And yet, OSRS and WoW are significantly harder gamers and have far more active players.

I'd suggest difficulty is somewhat subjective. And WoW has difficulty levels one can choose.

More to the point, perhaps, FFXIV is failing on multiple fronts, thereby driving down player numbers. When there are simple solutions to retain less-skilled players, it seems odd not to implement them.

[Altina_Orion]

I'd suggest difficulty is somewhat subjective. And WoW has difficulty levels one can choose.

More to the point, perhaps, FFXIV is failing on multiple fronts, thereby driving down player numbers. When there are simple solutions to retain less-skilled players, it seems odd not to implement them.

True, but normal mode on ffxiv is equivilant to normal on wow. I would argue that Normal on WoW is often times harder than normal on ffxiv. Wow has Heroic and Mythic+ as well. It really only goes up from here.

[Mawlzy]

True, but normal mode on ffxiv is equivilant to normal on wow. I would argue that Normal on WoW is often times harder than normal on ffxiv. Wow has Heroic and Mythic+ as well. It really only goes up from here.

Probably depends on whether one is more comfortable with predictive vs reactive combat.

And I still don't understand why driving players from FFXIV is a good thing.

[Altina_Orion]

Probably depends on whether one is more comfortable with predictive vs reactive combat.

And I still don't understand why driving players from FFXIV is a good thing.

Because there are other issues driving players away as well, and a lot of it is a lack of engaging replayable content at endgame. People aren't quitting in droves during dry patches because they are too challenged. I would argue that the lack of difficulty drives more people away than the presence of it, even if that isnt your personal experience.

[Mawlzy]

Because there are other issues driving players away as well, and a lot of it is a lack of engaging replayable content at endgame. People aren't quitting in droves during dry patches because they are too challenged. I would argue that the lack of difficulty drives more people away than the presence of it, even if that isnt your personal experience.

Right. We have diametrically opposed personal experience of this issue that doubtless colors our conclusions. For example, your FC probably still exists.

If SE would simply ask me and others why we're quitting, we'd be happy to tell them.