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  1. #21
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    Carin-Eri's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by PharisHanasaki View Post
    This is an MMORPG, your biggest asset is the people. That was my point.

    This game is so easy, a single good healer can carry an average group.
    What is the difference between making the game even easier and watching a No commentary playthrough on Youtube?
    Are we going to complain on every single game forum when we're unable to progress through the content on a single try? It's barely a day old, in a week everyone will be clearing this blindfolded.
    "So easy" - maybe for you.

    "Everyone". This is a blanket statement.

    I could watch any number of YouTube guides. Read any number of written guides. What I watched/read doesn't translate into in-game ability for me.

    And I can assure you I most certainly won't be clearing anything blindfolded. Chances are I won't replay the dungeon again - at least not if I can help it. And I highly doubt I'll even try the Alliance Raid.

    And no, not going to complain anywhere else. The reaction toward players who struggle admitting so here isn't quite as bad as, say, Reddit where such comments quickly receive a sufficient number of downvotes to remove them from sight.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by PharisHanasaki View Post
    This is an MMORPG, your biggest asset is the people. That was my point.

    This game is so easy, a single good healer can carry an average group.
    What is the difference between making the game even easier and watching a No commentary playthrough on Youtube?
    Are we going to complain on every single game forum when we're unable to progress through the content on a single try? It's barely a day old, in a week everyone will be clearing this blindfolded.
    How does a no-commentary walkthrough help? How does a guide help when you know what you're supposed to do but cannot do it???

    Does it make you feel better about yourself to repeatedly tell people who are struggling how "so easy" this game is.

    My entire FC has quit because there is no option on MSQ dungeons for any easy mode; they simply cannot complete some of them with NPCs. Yes, one can be carried while eating the floor. Where's the fun in that?

    The fact you note the biggest asset in this game is the people while simultaneously making poisonous comments really sums up what is wrong with this "community."

    Unbelievable.
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  3. #23
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    Leda Crysthira
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    Quote Originally Posted by PharisHanasaki View Post
    This is an MMORPG, your biggest asset is the people. That was my point.

    This game is so easy, a single good healer can carry an average group.
    What is the difference between making the game even easier and watching a No commentary playthrough on Youtube?
    Are we going to complain on every single game forum when we're unable to progress through the content on a single try? It's barely a day old, in a week everyone will be clearing this blindfolded.
    It's MSQ content so it should be designed for everyone to be completed without much issues and not being a frustrating experience for some. I personally did not have any troubles with the new dungeon but I can clearly see why it is hard for others and can be impossible for some too, be it disabilities, age or any other circumstances.
    In a week people will be clearing this blindfolded, yea maybe, it still doesn't address the actual issue tho. Those who struggle now due to the aforementioned reasons won't magically have these issues disappear in a week, plus I doubt they'll want to do this dungeon more often than necessary.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiaBlaze-Cari View Post
    It's MSQ content so it should be designed for everyone to be completed without much issues and not being a frustrating experience for some. I personally did not have any troubles with the new dungeon but I can clearly see why it is hard for others and can be impossible for some too, be it disabilities, age or any other circumstances.
    In a week people will be clearing this blindfolded, yea maybe, it still doesn't address the actual issue tho. Those who struggle now due to the aforementioned reasons won't magically have these issues disappear in a week, plus I doubt they'll want to do this dungeon more often than necessary.
    This.

    Hesitant as I am to admit it, I'm not really any better at the likes of M8 or Jeuno now then I was when it launched. As Mawlzy put it, I do - more or less - know what I'm supposed to do but between poor reflexes and snapshotting, I just can't actually make it happen.
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  5. #25
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    I'm curious what precisely you're having trouble with. I suspect you have a lack of experience in general, there aren't any particularly fast AoEs in that encounter. Everything is telegraphed with lots of time to dodge. For most people playing games, I'm 'older' as well (early 40s).

    Luckily one person dying doesn't end the run, just keep going and practice.
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  6. #26
    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    This.

    Hesitant as I am to admit it, I'm not really any better at the likes of M8 or Jeuno now then I was when it launched. As Mawlzy put it, I do - more or less - know what I'm supposed to do but between poor reflexes and snapshotting, I just can't actually make it happen.
    Given the EX you cleared, my guess is your PvE ability is either around, or not far below, the average skill level in the NA/EU pool. This has profound implications for SE which they are clearly ignoring.

    Be funny if, rather than a mediocre story, it is the raising of the skill floor in DT trials and dungeons that is responsible for the precipitous decline in player numbers.
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  7. #27
    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaphire View Post
    I'm curious what precisely you're having trouble with. I suspect you have a lack of experience in general, there aren't any particularly fast AoEs in that encounter. Everything is telegraphed with lots of time to dodge. For most people playing games, I'm 'older' as well (early 40s).

    Luckily one person dying doesn't end the run, just keep going and practice.
    Kids, I swear. I was playing Asteroids before you were born.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Given the EX you cleared, my guess is your PvE ability is either around, or not far below, the average skill level in the NA/EU pool. This has profound implications for SE which they are clearly ignoring.

    Be funny if, rather than a mediocre story, it is the raising of the skill floor in DT trials and dungeons that is responsible for the precipitous decline in player numbers.
    It would - but you'd never get any acknowledgement of that possibility here (or on social media).
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  9. #29
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    Shinku Tachi
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    Quote Originally Posted by OogaShaka View Post
    Thats for the support all, i took your advice and went back to my old legacy data center and asked for help with it went as summoner tho,dying as dps is better then as heals,and altho i died thru that whole 4 boss fight they were nice and just kept rezzing and assisting.Figured i would give an update.
    Congrats! Very glad to hear you got the clear, friend! ^_^

    Also, I can't tell y'all how much it warms my heart to have seen so many of y'all offer to help them clear. I'm passing out up doots to all y'all that offered. Y'all are so sweet! ❤️
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Kids, I swear. I was playing Asteroids before you were born.
    Ha - that's normally how I feel talking to people in my FC ._.
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