Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[Feathetaria]

A friend of mine sent me screenshots of his Female Miqo'te with Face 3 Mouth 4 when he was using a new mod for Pre DT faces. Look how completely different these lips are when you compare the 6.55 to 7.0+.

the left and center screenshots were taken about 2 weeks ago by a friend that was using a new mod called "Miqo'te Female EW face port".

The left screenshot is how Feathetaria's Lips used to look before DT, back in 6.55 and earlier and this is how they would look with the new mod. I want these lips back ingame and I will never give up my fight!
The middle and right are 7.0-7.3 and are so similar that I kinda feel like Female Miqo'te Face 3 Mouth 4 just was not addressed in 7.3 and hopefully will be fixed in a future patch.

I'm a housing designer and bathhouse enjoyer that loves to socialize, so I don't plan on quitting the game. But I will still say that the reason I didn't play DT MSQ was because of WHAT DT DID TO MY LIPS! I still have not done DT MSQ because I'm technically still on MSQ Strike until my lips are restored. This had nothing to do with public DT reception. This decision was 10000% based on LIPS. Feathetaria thinks it's unacceptable that her lips were taken from her for no good reason. They were perfect as they were and even with the new lighting engine her lips look FREAKING AMAZING with the new face port mod that my friend took screenshots of, for me.

I beg you, SE. PLEASE return to her the Perfect Lips that you stole from Feathetaria. ♥
I love this game and it is Feathetaria's home. Please restore her ♥.

[Anarnee]

I'm not seeing any changes to Fem Roegadyn face 2. The nose is still bulbous, like they just pinched a hyur nose and called it a day. And I admit, I'm super jealous, it looks like FemElezen got their cute little lip dimples back, and we're still out here with the new crusty lip shape. I'm not taking new pictures, I'll just use this persons post, cause the shapes are still looking the same.

And the eyes are still wrong. Dark pupils, and snake eyes anytime my characters smile.

Face also still looks like she got stung by bees when she makes expressions. My poor girl looks like she needs an epipen.

翻訳機を使っているので、間違いがあるかもしれませんが、すみません！

女性ルガディンの顔2は全体的にひどい出来でしたが、鼻と唇が最悪です。特に鼻！

7.0以前の鼻筋はまっすぐで、先端が細くなっていた。7.0以降は、最初が狭く、先端が広くなっている。鼻先も今は完全にまっすぐで、ブロックが多すぎるように見える。

写真ではすべてを見せようとしている。

それはさておき、肌がごちゃごちゃしすぎているように見える。

< 6.0 | 7.0 >

[Jaltaer]

Someone with a better eye for it than me can probably make a proper comparison image, but seems like fem Au Ra face 2 is still unchanged as well. The mouth I use is still oddly shaped and tiny, they're never giving me my dimples back feels like...

[Riusvell]

My Viera's hooked nose on Face 1 has been entirely sanded down. I'm actually upset about it, not to mention he looks even more baby faced than he did the last time.
Why?

I picked sharp features for this character for a reason, and now they're just completely gone. Every nose is sanded down.
The threatening and more mature aspects of my Viera are just erased for nothing. Why are these options just gone now, from face 1?
I miss his hooked nose, I miss the angular features.

Even when comparing older screenshots I can tell this is not the Viera I've designed.

[faiarrow]

I'm not seeing any changes to Fem Roegadyn face 2. The nose is still bulbous, like they just pinched a hyur nose and called it a day. And I admit, I'm super jealous, it looks like FemElezen got their cute little lip dimples back, and we're still out here with the new crusty lip shape. I'm not taking new pictures, I'll just use this persons post, cause the shapes are still looking the same.

And the eyes are still wrong. Dark pupils, and snake eyes anytime my characters smile.

Face also still looks like she got stung by bees when she makes expressions. My poor girl looks like she needs an epipen.

Yeah, zero changes between 7.2 and 7.3 — still dealing with those awful eyes, missing brow normal maps, a bracket for a lip shape that makes smiles look horrendous. I'm so tired. I'm SO tired.



Like seriously who in the design team thinks keeping that flat diffuse without the muscle definition in the brow from the normal map looks good, it still looks like Sko has taken a contouring stick and smeared it on the arch before her brow hair.

The mobile version shows WHY that flat diffuse exists because the normal map is there!



It's so infuriating! I'm no longer going to be "nice" about this, CS3! The eyes have been a feedback point SINCE OCTOBER 2023 FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. WE DON'T WANT THESE! GIVE OUR CHARACTERS BACK. これは馬鹿げている！あなたは数十億ドル規模の企業です。責任を果たすか実際にプレイヤーに「更新内容」を明確に説明してください！

[OdrN]

Looks like they're not done offering fantasias ^^.

[Breezelyn]

At this point, no one is ever going to be happy with what changes they do. You somehow managed to find something that works, then they change it once more, then now it looks terrible. We're playing a lose-lose situation here. The playerbase will never be happy with any changes. Anything they do will upset even more players that found options that have 'worked' for them, only for those options to change and now they have to redo it all over again. I get anxious when I see "graphical updates" going to characters every patch; They are only going to keep pissing people off with not mentioning what they're changing.

I'm upset with how my character looks and have fantasia'd using the free one given each patch so far. I found a medium even if I'm not overly thrilled. People will just have to bite the bullet and make do with the options they have, even if it's not great. I'd rather have them invest more time, money, and energy into a complete character creator overhaul, even if it takes them a long time. I feel that will be the BEST THING they can do instead of doing this every god damn patch. End of the day, they can't please every single player.

[Gaddes]

yeah... big surprise, NOTHING again. Lips still wrong. It even looks like somehow there's LESS contrast visually than in 7.0...?
Ignore the eyebrows, I had to change them to thinner ones between 7.2 to 7.3 to look even remotely a little more angry when my character's supposed to be mad.




Oh yeah and eyelids still broken when looking down.



At this point I think aside from some people getting to wear hats / show their ears, they're literally just giving folks a free fantasia and calling it a day.

[Jacobgjag]

I really hope and pray a dev sees this post, cause the pants for Hakama #55 and the entire set are very much a different color from what they used to be. This wouldn't be a problem if it was dyable but still my outfit was all the same shade of black but now the pants are like a brownish black. I don't mind graphic updates but those pants did not need them.

[Cai]

Face 2 Female Roegadyn now have a very strange, distracting permanent mark on the inside eyebrows. I think it's meant to be a shadow but it looks like a dirt or marker smudge on the face because of how far past the eyebrow and down the nose it goes. It isn't present on any face #1, #3, or #4 female roegadyn but is present on both Hellsguard and Seawolf faces with all four eyebrow options.