Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[Turnintino]

No noticeable changes to male Seeker of the Sun Miqo'te, Face 4. Unsurprised, but always disappointed.

I noticed my female Duskwight Elezen, Face 1, saw some changes to the shape of her mouth and to the baked-in eye shadow this face had previously in 7.2. Below, I've manually edited the brightness/contrast of the screenshots for clarity, since these were the best I had on hand for a clear comparison. She's wearing lip color and face paint around the eyes, but I confirmed with the aesthetician that the baked-in eye shadow underneath has been removed. I did not play an Elezen prior to DT, so I can only assume they're correcting a mistake similar to the one they made with the male Duskwight faces being given Wildwood's dark circles, but I'm hardly the authority here. Regardless, I figured the differences were worth sharing.



And a gif for additional clarity:

[Tahli]

Still no fix to the messed up eyebrows of F Miqo'te face 2. We're still furious about it in the Petition to fix it thread.

Anytime they add some nice updates to G-pose, I think about how I can't even use or enjoy that when any close up of my character's face has awful, angry dark lines for eyebrows.

[HeyMcFly]

From what I was able to see before I had to log off, yeah, sadly :/ it seems like its a bit lighter now. I've no idea why they keep messing with this part of viera so much when there's so many more other, arguably more important things to figure out and fix, like the recent eyelid issue characters have been having... But alas

I noticed it immediately and was disgusted, so I turned back into a lala. It's my favorite part of Viera, looking more like animals rather than people. It's a fantasy game, with fantasy races, why play a human when you have access to way cooler races? Why would you want the cooler races to look more human? It's stupid and shows how vanilla people really are.

[Princess-Raiju]

They are blury all over their bodies 50% of the time, depending on where your camera is.
Maybe also some smaller/slimmer, more to scale shoulders? Or at least have our gear not male roe model based when it comes to the shoulder pieces? The width of their shoulders in general, along with the size of the shoulder pieces when it comes to a lot of gear makes it really hard to get certain clothing to look flattering on them..

[DynnDiablos]

They are blury all over their bodies 50% of the time, depending on where your camera is.
Maybe also some smaller/slimmer, more to scale shoulders? Or at least have our gear not male roe model based when it comes to the shoulder pieces? The width of their shoulders in general, along with the size of the shoulder pieces when it comes to a lot of gear makes it really hard to get certain clothing to look flattering on them..

I am playing on a PS5 Pro and my hrothgal doesn't look anything like that. Nothing blurry on me.

[valphyrian]

Disappointed but entirely unsurprised to see that male Miqo'te face 4 has yet again remained untouched by yet another update/fix. Their mouth shape is still NOTABLY wrong, borderline unrecognizable even, and their eyes have no reflection/catchlight -- or well, they do, but it can only be seen if you look up from under the characters chin, otherwise no reflection and they look dead and lifeless. It's been over a year at this point. Losing more and more faith with each passing day glaring issues go unchecked.

[noumen0nn]

Another patch, another round of playing "did they even adjust anything?". If they did it was more pixel-level normal map adjustments, and not physical features that are demonstrably completely different shapes from their post-DT versions.

Oh, and the eyelid bug hasn't been patched, or even acknowledged.

[Argantaelle]

(...) I noticed my female Duskwight Elezen, Face 1, saw some changes to the shape of her mouth...

I also noticed the change in the upper lip length and its shape (face 4, mouth 2). The mouth is still too large, but at least now its shape has become more natural and complex instead of a mere combination of straight lines.

EW - 7.1 - 7.3 comparison:

[HeyMcFly]

No noticeable changes to male Seeker of the Sun Miqo'te, Face 4. Unsurprised, but always disappointed.

I noticed my female Duskwight Elezen, Face 1, saw some changes to the shape of her mouth and to the baked-in eye shadow this face had previously in 7.2. Below, I've manually edited the brightness/contrast of the screenshots for clarity, since these were the best I had on hand for a clear comparison. She's wearing lip color and face paint around the eyes, but I confirmed with the aesthetician that the baked-in eye shadow underneath has been removed. I did not play an Elezen prior to DT, so I can only assume they're correcting a mistake similar to the one they made with the male Duskwight faces being given Wildwood's dark circles, but I'm hardly the authority here. Regardless, I figured the differences were worth sharing.



And a gif for additional clarity:

Thank you, I was wondering why I liked my elezen a little more. I like the subtle curve of the top lip, makes them look like they aren't just :| and more of a :}

[KhujaRela]

Hope the link works... I had to use the Fantasia to get her back to "Endwalker" looks, and it somehow worked! the lips are better shaped now, and her round eyes don't look like she is shocked all the time anymore. Also the eyebrows seem a bit darker even with light hair, overall, colors seem a bit better now and more according to the color table (lipsticks still could be better tho : ( and natural lips lack texture yet). I'm missing fangs and some other stuff here and there but overall I think this update got a lot of things better and more similar to the original character models, so I hope they keep working on it!! I'm more hopeful now than last patches over this past year :'')

Things I think/look like they 'fixed' 7.3 (in most of my characters):
-lip shapes on the corners and middle parts (some faces are back to subtle smile like before)
-Eye shapes, altho this can look a little weird with the new realistic eyes, some look too small and now that the eye got bigger, it looks weirder
-Eye lights, they catch more light now! no matter the time of day and angle of camera
-Colors (a bit brighter/more accurate)
-some face expressions using emotes that looked weird now look more natural

Things I still wish they would address:
-Some scalp/hair shapes
-Upper lips, they are messed up and smaller in most of races and faces... (Miqo'te face 4, lips 2, I'm so sad... and also my Lalafell girl)
-More natural looking on non-lipstick lips and painted lips (too dull, or too bright and fake)
-Some eyebrows still lack hair and look too bright with some hair colors


7.3


7.2


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