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  1. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    All I know is if they make her a Scion, I'm done. I can't deal with her on a long-term basis. I always get worried that Yoshi P. reacts out of spite sometimes with the community. He knows she is disliked, so I could see him forcing her on us all just to prove a point.
    "I feel a little sorry that we weren't able to properly depict her. We may have been able to make her more straightforward, so we're pushing her in the forefront as this character. But again, we're going to be reflecting that learning into [content patch 7.1] and onward, we're hoping that we can show more of what makes Wuk Lamat so great, and I'm hoping that we can regain from there." - Naoki Yoshida
    Get ready for Wuk Lamat to join the Scions.



    Quote Originally Posted by Atma View Post
    She's a queen without a kingdom and has functionally already acknowledged that she's out of time and place. That is one of really 'three paths' that this could go, and I think fans will riot at this point if they choose either of the other two.
    I assume you mean A: Put on tiara and Turn Evil and Die; B: Die (Without turning evil); or C: Come with us

    May I propose a 4th option? She will stay, and co-rule with Koana. Thus freeing Wuk Lamat to come with us as the new member of our party. I don't like it, but this is where MY money is going.
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    Last edited by Auro_Seldaris; 08-05-2025 at 03:29 AM.

  2. #142
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    Honestly if they keep the writing style seen in 7.0, I think it's only a matter of time before the main writer picks another 'main chara' to focus clumsily on as if we're in some cheap visual novel storytelling. Then we're back at square one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auro_Seldaris View Post
    I assume you mean A: Put on tiara and Turn Evil and Die; B: Die (Without turning evil); or C: Come with us
    Let's face it, even with option A and B on the table, she will almost definitely be resurrected and likely because her bond with Wuk or us (but I am betting on Wuk) is so strong that it transcends both life and death.

    If there is one thing you should never do, it's underestimate the reliance this team has on the power of already wildly overused and creatively cheap anime tropes over actual good and well thought out story telling.
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    Wuk Laminate is literally the only character i HOPED would die asap. Sadly, here we are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia View Post
    Let's face it, even with option A and B on the table, she will almost definitely be resurrected and likely because her bond with Wuk or us (but I am betting on Wuk) is so strong that it transcends both life and death.
    "Spheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeene listen to me. I won't let you die. I promised! Don't step into the light. By the power of peace, love, joy, and happiness! Spheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeene."

    /Spheene immediately starts breathing again and regains her conciousness/

    You read it here first. Enjoy 7.3!
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  6. #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenkatsu View Post
    "By the power of peace, love, joy, and happiness!"
    ... and "tacos." You forgot tacos. :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auro_Seldaris View Post
    Get ready for Wuk Lamat to join the Scions.





    I assume you mean A: Put on tiara and Turn Evil and Die; B: Die (Without turning evil); or C: Come with us

    May I propose a 4th option? She will stay, and co-rule with Koana. Thus freeing Wuk Lamat to come with us as the new member of our party. I don't like it, but this is where MY money is going.
    I would like to propose a fifth option: Sphene remains in Alexandria as the sole and rightful ruler and Gulool Ja either moves to Tuliyollal to live with his aunt and uncle (and possibly becomes a future candidate for Dawnservant) or takes up his dad's swords and tags along with us. Lizard Kid is cute and all, but he has no business ruling Alexandria; to the best of our current knowledge, the "king of resolve" was a title imposed on Alexandria by his stupid ass father thirty years ago and can be dismissed as illegitimate.
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    Last edited by Queen_of_Hearts; 08-05-2025 at 05:36 AM.

  8. #148
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    That is actually a curious point; Wuk Lamat barely interacted with Real Sphene at all, but instead, Sphene was with us during 7.2.

    Wuk Lamat is bonded with Endless Sphene, and the cast made it very clear that they are two wholly different characters.
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  9. #149
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedLolly View Post
    That is actually a curious point; Wuk Lamat barely interacted with Real Sphene at all, but instead, Sphene was with us during 7.2.

    Wuk Lamat is bonded with Endless Sphene, and the cast made it very clear that they are two wholly different characters.
    Because Wuk Lamat was supposed to be bonding with Real Sphene just the same way she bonded with Endless Sphene. It's VERY odd that she fell head-over-heels for the Endless Sphene, and yet, when the REAL Sphene shows up, she just goes, "Huh. Neat. Well, I'll be in the background, doing anything else than interacting with Sphene. And talking to literal background nobodies instead of the Real life version of my 'dear friend'."

    Any inconsistency is cause for scrutiny, both in real-life investigations and in fiction.

    It's so out of character, it's jarring. It took me right out of the plot, as likable as Sphene is and as much as I was glad for Wuk to take a backseat, it makes no sense storywise.

    The only way it makes a lick of sense is that all of those scenes were originally planned to be Wuk Lamat, but they were redone after the reaction to Wuk in 7.0 to instead have Sphene bond with your WoL. Makes sense, they would hardly have to re-record any lines unless they specificall said "Llama Tea". Just keep Sphene's dialogue and recontextualize everything else as involving the WoL, easy.

    Why would Wuk Lamat LOVE the fake Sphene and give no shits about the REAL one? Because it was rewritten.
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  10. #150
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auro_Seldaris View Post
    ...Why would Wuk Lamat LOVE the fake Sphene and give no shits about the REAL one? Because it was rewritten.
    I also theorize this.

    It worked, too. 7.2 was received as a step in the right direction by simply centering our WoL again.
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