League levels of toxic behavour in game.

[velkettin]

The problem is that even being half a second too late can totally mess up the pull, and some players use all their kit to outrun me, no matter how efficient I use my movement abilities. So the DD jumps into the group, I follow immediately and AE, but the healer has already casted something, my AE gets lost in a snapshot, and now the aggro is all over the place. If you think this is efficient in any way shape or form, I do not know what to tell you (well, not in a moderated environment anyway).

@OP: When you get such clowns in your group, there's no point in talking to them. Their behaviour is senseless, so you can't talk any sense into them. Finish the pull, then leave - better to do something else for the next 30 minutes than cope with this nonsense. And blacklist them - the next time you get into a group with some "Unnamed player 1", you already know what to expect and can leave immediately, instead of wasting more time on a clown.

on what planet does being slightly behind to a pull constitute enough of a problem to get upset about? if aggro is "all over the place," what fixes that? hitting your aoe one (1) time. melee jobs, usually the ones to pull ahead, have enough self healing to sustain themselves on one pack long enough for you to reach them even if they are dumb enough to just stay put and not bring anything to you. no one cares if a few mobs get missed-just hit your aoe again. you're wasting way more of your time eating the 30 minutes over something you can fix in 3 seconds.

[TBerry]

on what planet does being slightly behind to a pull constitute enough of a problem to get upset about? if aggro is "all over the place," what fixes that? hitting your aoe one (1) time. melee jobs, usually the ones to pull ahead, have enough self healing to sustain themselves on one pack long enough for you to reach them even if they are dumb enough to just stay put and not bring anything to you. no one cares if a few mobs get missed-just hit your aoe again. you're wasting way more of your time eating the 30 minutes over something you can fix in 3 seconds.

Earth.
Dancer is a ranged DPS and dashing as Reaper also gives you one free ranged attack, so they automatically have far more range than the tank. And everyone runs at the same speed and sprint can only get you so far ahead.

[velkettin]

Earth.
Dancer is a ranged DPS and dashing as Reaper also gives you one free ranged attack, so they automatically have far moere range than the tank. And everyone runs at the same speed and sprint can only get you so far ahead.

i'm fully aware of what dancer and reaper can do, i pull ahead on them frequently. you could've mentioned ninja for its teleport as well. that doesn't mean it's a problem. reaper has the same survivability skills as any melee in addition to arcane crest (and the regen from that breaking if you're high enough level). dancer has shield samba and curing waltz, along with arm's length. letting a dps's healthbar be your mit for a moment is not the end of the world and i'm happy whenever someone uses their movement skills efficiently enough to pull ahead of me enough to do that when i tank.

tanks also have gap closers that can take you further than a reaper's dash, although imo they should be unlocked sooner, and tanks can frequently get ahead of me even after i've dashed ahead of them.

[Valence]

Earth.
Dancer is a ranged DPS and dashing as Reaper also gives you one free ranged attack, so they automatically have far more range than the tank. And everyone runs at the same speed and sprint can only get you so far ahead.

If you truly want to keep full control of pulling while you pull, if it helps for that specific case and if I understand correctly the scenario you're describing, just use provoke on the mob that they pull. Provoke has more range than anything in the game and will secure aggro no matter what. Once the rest of the mobs are following, you should probably be close enough to dash at them and AoE.