7.3 Hopefully the end of talking to Wuk Lamat

[Kaurhz]

I will never understand the seething hatred people have for Wuk Lamat. Like, you'd think she was Cersei freaking Lannister, with the way people act but no... She's just sort of annoying but largely inoffensive.

When you suffocate the story with the presence of said character, then you are already going to give people a bad taste... Coupled with the fact the VA essentially called a community racist for not liking the song and/or not finding it an appropriate song to use when you are quite literally building an explosive train....

And the quality and consistency that you'd expect for a character that was as omnipresent, just wasn't good enough.

Yeah, I can easily see why people feel the way that they do

[Pimsan20]

When you suffocate the story with the presence of said character, then you are already going to give people a bad taste... Coupled with the fact the VA essentially called a community racist for not liking the song and/or not finding it an appropriate song to use when you are quite literally building an explosive train....

And the quality and consistency that you'd expect for a character that was as omnipresent, just wasn't good enough.

Yeah, I can easily see why people feel the way that they do

But can we be sure if she said that? I mean this is the internet we're talking about. So this might be misinformation to throw us off.

[MayuAmakura]

But can we be sure if she said that? I mean this is the internet we're talking about. So this might be misinformation to throw us off.

I mean there are plenty of youtube videos about it, forums and constant internet talk no? Is this going to be another one of: ''This has to be yet another miss translation for 6xxx time".

People hated Wuk lamat first for gameplay, constant quests dragging with: ''speak to wuk lamat, speak to wuk lamat again, speak to wuk lamat once again''. Horrible quests. Then the VA came and insulted people on twitter and there was a huge backlash on this. Normally this is why you'd get the hate because you just fuel fire into this even more. Same thing what happened to other VA who tried to be smart.

[Pimsan20]

I mean there are plenty of youtube videos about it, forums and constant internet talk no? Is this going to be another one of: ''This has to be yet another miss translation for 6xxx time".

People hated Wuk lamat first for gameplay, constant quests dragging with: ''speak to wuk lamat, speak to wuk lamat again, speak to wuk lamat once again''. Horrible quests. Then the VA came and insulted people on twitter and there was a huge backlash on this. Normally this is why you'd get the hate because you just fuel fire into this even more. Same thing what happened to other VA who tried to be smart.

If that is the cause, i see that both party are at fault of the hate. I mean let's be fair, this could have been avoided if people would look at this with cooler heads. Now we have this back and forth, since Dawntrail.

[Kaurhz]

If that is the cause, i see that both party are at fault of the hate. I mean let's be fair, this could have been avoided if people would look at this with cooler heads. Now we have this back and forth, since Dawntrail.

You can't really get any cooler about it... Literally most people just hated the song because of where it was used, and not necessarily for the quality of it, e.g., you have the song in question playing during the moment where you're building an explosive train, like at that point just play King Moggle Mog theme when trying to fight Bahamut instead of Answers.

A spade is a spade... A suffocating character is a suffocating character... A VA with inconsistent quality is a VA with inconsistent quality... That is all there was to it.

Then you have the VA coming out and trying blanket accuse racism, whilst trying to retain some level of vague deniability by virtue of "I only said certain groups".

[Pimsan20]

You can't really get any cooler about it... Literally most people just hated the song because of where it was used, and not necessarily for the quality of it, e.g., you have the song in question playing during the moment where you're building an explosive train, like at that point just play King Moggle Mog theme when trying to fight Bahamut instead of Answers.

A spade is a spade... A suffocating character is a suffocating character... A VA with inconsistent quality is a VA with inconsistent quality... That is all there was to it.

Then you have the VA coming out and trying blanket accuse racism, whilst trying to retain some level of vague deniability by virtue of "I only said certain groups".

Yea, i have to admit. Using the song at the train seems out of place. On that i have to agree. And how Wuk Lamat can be suffocating, is also understandable. And how the VA choice her words does have negative impact too.

[DreadCrow]

When you suffocate the story with the presence of said character, then you are already going to give people a bad taste... Coupled with the fact the VA essentially called a community racist for not liking the song and/or not finding it an appropriate song to use when you are quite literally building an explosive train....

And the quality and consistency that you'd expect for a character that was as omnipresent, just wasn't good enough.

Again, the quality of the voice acting in XIV was mixed , all around. Not just with Wuk. G'raha's lines sounded like he was phoning it in... Literally, as if was recorded through a telephone.

And the VA absolutely said something stupid, but that's because she's been dealing with people deliberately misgendering her or calling her 'it', I think she gets a pass or two.

[Astronis]

Again, the quality of the voice acting in XIV was mixed , all around. Not just with Wuk. G'raha's lines sounded like he was phoning it in... Literally, as if was recorded through a telephone.

It was indeed all quite mediocre, though if I'd had to listen to as much of G'raha phoning it in as I did Wuk Lamat's viscerally unpleasant voice, the VA work would probably have affected my opinion of G'raha as a character as well. It's hard to like a character who's voice is hard to listen to. It is also hard to like a character who creepily insists she is a member of the WoL's family without a shred of consideration for how the WoL feels about that, but to be fair I also disliked G'raha creeping on my WoL.

[Kaurhz]

Again, the quality of the voice acting in XIV was mixed , all around. Not just with Wuk. G'raha's lines sounded like he was phoning it in... Literally, as if was recorded through a telephone.

And the VA absolutely said something stupid, but that's because she's been dealing with people deliberately misgendering her or calling her 'it', I think she gets a pass or two.

I am not saying the VAs in general through DT were good, it was a drab experience all around, but none of their characters really have a suffocating experience.

But if you are voice acting a character that has as much omnipresence as she did in the MSQ, then generally I would expected much higher standards, really.

You can't really excuse bad behavior on that basis, really. But I guess you do you with that rationalization. How other people are treating her does not really justify blanketing racism accusations across multiple 'groups' of players, especially when there were perfectly reasonable concerns with the use of the song in reference.

So no, there is no "Pass or two" at generalizing players as being racist because they dislike a song.