I thought the Deep Dungeon would be something new, but this is just Palace again...

[Bryson]

Palace didn't "cushion" how far back they send you if your party wipes
Palace didn't allow you to prog the last boss in a separate instance
Palace didn't have Quantum difficulty that allows players to decide amongst themselves how difficult they want the boss to be with "offerings."

So yeah.. you're missing something here.

[Kemiko]

It sounds like you were under the impression, for some very strange reason, that this new Deep Dungeon would somehow be so radically different from all three previous Deep Dungeons that it wouldn't even be called a Deep Dungeon. This expectation is probably the exact reason Yoshida decided to take the time to explain what a Deep Dungeon is before explaining what this one does that differs from the previous three. Yoshida could tell me that the team and him has "new plans" for the upcoming 7.4 Trial but I'll still be expecting an 8-man, 2 tanks, 2 healers, 4 dps arena battle with an oversized mob having us play out visually appealing DDR. Because it's still a trial.

Palace didn't "cushion" how far back they send you if your party wipes
Palace didn't allow you to prog the last boss in a separate instance
Palace didn't have Quantum difficulty that allows players to decide amongst themselves how difficult they want the boss to be with "offerings."

So yeah.. you're missing something here.

These, in my honest opinion, are great and are definitely new and different from all three previous Deep Dungeons. I'm happy to see these changes and hope that once it launches it receives positive feedback for them to continue in this direction.

[Valence]

I do agree with the OP, they brought nice QoL changes and the way the content can cater to a broader audience, but they didn't even try to change anything about the gameplay inside, or improve upon it, making the core of the content another reskin of palace. It's disappointing.

Palace didn't have Quantum difficulty that allows players to decide amongst themselves how difficult they want the boss to be with "offerings."

So yeah.. you're missing something here.

The thing you're completely missing for sure is that the optional quantum boss is all but part of deep dungeon. It just happens to require clearing that deep dungeon to access, but otherwise it's just yet another regular boss that has nothing to do with deep dungeons and rogue lites.

[Bryson]

I do agree with the OP, they brought nice QoL changes and the way the content can cater to a broader audience, but they didn't even try to change anything about the gameplay inside, or improve upon it, making the core of the content another reskin of palace. It's disappointing.



The thing you're completely missing for sure is that the optional quantum boss is all but part of deep dungeon. It just happens to require clearing that deep dungeon to access, but otherwise it's just yet another regular boss that has nothing to do with deep dungeons and rogue lites.

"require clearing deep dungeon" and "have nothing to do with deep dungeon" are mutually exclusive.

[Valence]

"require clearing deep dungeon" and "have nothing to do with deep dungeon" are mutually exclusive.

[Reimmi]

Palace didn't "cushion" how far back they send you if your party wipes
Palace didn't allow you to prog the last boss in a separate instance
Palace didn't have Quantum difficulty that allows players to decide amongst themselves how difficult they want the boss to be with "offerings."

So yeah.. you're missing something here.

it's still the same gameplay loop
having slight differences doesn't make it different enough