[DISCUSSION] Primal Replacements

[Daudream]

What makes you think optional trials are coming back when Zelenia was MSQ? Endwalker had one at the very end and that was it.

Because we've always had optional trials like Odin in ARR to the weapons in SHB, even if EW only had one optional trial that is still an optional trial. I am not directly hooked to this game either so for all i know the optional ones will come late or we'll just get one from a side quest like in EW, my main point was just more that i don't agree on DT being "uncommitted" to trials with the other half of my comment pointing out that MSQ will add more of them.

Even if we don't get any optional ones and trials are just for MSQ this time around I still disagree on that point.

[TaleraRistain]

Because we've always had optional trials like Odin in ARR to the weapons in SHB, even if EW only had one optional trial that is still an optional trial. I am not directly hooked to this game either so for all i know the optional ones will come late or we'll just get one from a side quest like in EW, my main point was just more that i don't agree on DT being "uncommitted" to trials with the other half of my comment pointing out that MSQ will add more of them.

Even if we don't get any optional ones and trials are just for MSQ this time around I still disagree on that point.

There was an optional trial in Hilidibrand. That's not the same as a trial side series. We don't get the trial side series anymore. The 7 trials for mounts are baked into the MSQ now so we get more in the MSQ as a tradeoff instead of being shunted out into a side series.

[Daudream]

There was an optional trial in Hilidibrand. That's not the same as a trial side series. We don't get the trial side series anymore. The 7 trials for mounts are baked into the MSQ now so we get more in the MSQ as a tradeoff instead of being shunted out into a side series.

It's still an optional trial, that's my point, I never said it was unlocked the same way as the trial side series, but it is optional content linked to a optional story that gives you an optional trial. Again I have a life outside this game, I do not consume every drop of info they release, if we don't get a trial series then we don't get a trial series and I am fine with that, but it does not mean we can't get an optional trial from something else (and i do count EX with no normal version in that) and again again this was in response to the OP saying "DT is uncommitted to trials", which I personally disagree with and still disagree with even if trials is only MSQ content now.

[mallleable]

I don't have any strong feelings about trials being part of the MSQ. A nice thing about making trials part of the MSQ is that who/what we get as trials won't be locked in side quest jail so it make being able to pull on those threads a cleaner process.

[ShadowyZero]

i would like to see them revisit the Ysayle idea of how she became shiva sorta like ff16 had dominants like that would be a cool or fun way to introduce to us new deity like figures or demonic ones etc. i mean heck the ancients pretty much did that normally when it came to combat situations its why we face

hermes

in a dungeon and

hades

as a trial and

elidibus

as a raid boss etc.

[Garruss]

The Asicans taught the whole world to summon Primals, I would not be shocked if places we have not gone to still do that