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    Shistar's Avatar
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    Cordelia Crow
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by s32ialx View Post
    The stable outside an apartment building is not the same as owning one on your personal plot:

    • You can’t decorate or place the stable yourself
    • You can’t control access or personalize its use
    • You can’t integrate it into your outdoor design
    • You can’t use it for gardening or crossbreeding, which is exclusive to estate plots
    The stables in apartments are better than the ones you can place in your own plot because you don't have to waste an item slot or any of your own resources obtaining and placing it, if someone else cleans it you also benefit from it. Unless you're strategically placing your stable on top of your crops so your chocobos can "fertilize" your crops in your imagination, I don't know what that last point has to do with everything else... they're two different things that never interact with each other. The only customization stables can have is dyeing them, and there's generally no point in placing a chocobo stables if you are in an FC that already has them or have an apartment, it's just a waste of item slots for the majority of players. Of course, they can choose to place it if they want, but it's not the smartest thing to do imho. Specially since it has very limited uses, in a system that is largely outdated nowadays. And this is coming from someone who has trained multiple chocobos.


    Quote Originally Posted by s32ialx View Post
    I think we both want a better FFXIV, we just see different paths to get there, and to make it perfectly clear with your statement that you don't think FCs (or anyone, specially private estates) should be given a workshop for free. I don't recall saying any of this had to be free?

    I generally agree with your point, I'm just making corrections because many of the things you're saying are flat out wrong and are easy to prove as such... if you're making a post like this, it's a good idea to double check that everything you're saying is correct before posting, or at least correcting the information if you find out you made a mistake for the future readers.



    "For free" in the sense that if all FCs have access to a house, then all FCs will simply have a workshop because it's dirt cheap to build one. If you have the gil to get even a small house, you absolutely have the gil to make a workshop or will have it very soon. I understand not wanting to block players from engaging with the content, but you're also making it extremely easy for RMT bots to do their thing if you just enable it as it is. Just because it's already happening doesn't mean you should let it run rampant and make it even easier for them to do so, quite the opposite.


    Instanced housing for personal estates, I'm all for it. I don't care what people do with their personal houses. For FCs, the system will have to be much, much more strict about who can make and maintain an FC and the requirements for a workshop should be even stricter. A real group of players would be able to meet them realistically, but it'd be enough of a bother for bots to have to shell out more money and time maintaining this stuff. Or you know, they could actually crack down on them harder, but that's not really our business unfortunately lol if the appropriate safeguards to prevent abuse are put in, again I don't care what people do with their houses, I hope they have fun! But this is SE we're talking about; they'd sooner remove the workshop than prevent bots from exploiting it without having players face the repercussions...
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    Last edited by Shistar; 07-23-2025 at 02:19 PM. Reason: Character limit