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  1. #3381
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    Broskie Broboto
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    Hi, new player here. Wuk is genuinely the worst thing to ever happen to this game. However even without her, the writing is just god awful. Also i can't be the only one who finds Wuk's and Sphene's friendship insanely forced.
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  2. #3382
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    Hallarem Aurealis
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Broskie View Post
    Hi, new player here. Wuk is genuinely the worst thing to ever happen to this game. However even without her, the writing is just god awful. Also i can't be the only one who finds Wuk's and Sphene's friendship insanely forced.
    I call it Wuk no Jutsu. Everyone gets tempered by her and have no opposing views to her, or if they do, they vanish after a bit of a dose of good ol' wuk no jutsu. It causes villains to do 180's, it causes everyone to adore her and forget their own goals and co-exist within her world, even her brothers own passions and goals got erased and devoured by Wuk no jutsu's papa peace project.
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  3. #3383
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    Deidrea Shadowbane
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    Twintania
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    DT is the first expansion where I'm 100% certain I won't rewatch the cutscenes. DT is the first expansion that I'm 100% certain I won't play with a second character.
    (3)
    Someone call the Forum Police! Because I wrote passive aggressively that DT looks not good. Oh how right I was!

  4. #3384
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    Basteala Thayne
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    Mateus
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    Oh my God this is still going.

    I get why, but damn.
    (1)

  5. #3385
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    ElysiumDragon's Avatar
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    Mimilla Milla
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    Archer Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Basteala View Post
    Oh my God this is still going.

    I get why, but damn.
    339 pages of complaints about the character that I'm 100% sure has NOTHING to do with her English VA, right? Because I can happily critique questionable VA work, but a 300+ page thread seems kinda... excessive?
    (3)

  6. #3386
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    Metra Surrik
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basteala View Post
    Oh my God this is still going.

    I get why, but damn.
    It is still ongoing as of now because, as I have observed, some have yet to complete the story or may have just finished it, and they are posting in this thread to share their opinions.
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  7. #3387
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    Alassra Do'urden
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon View Post
    339 pages of complaints about the character that I'm 100% sure has NOTHING to do with her English VA, right? Because I can happily critique questionable VA work, but a 300+ page thread seems kinda... excessive?
    Her omnipresence in the story even when she isn't here, the fact that she didn't just took the light from the WoL like some have but totally overshadowed the importance of the WoL in the whole MSQ, the fact that she is close to the definition of a Mary Sue that don't learn anything but that she was always right and "being a little more confident in herself" that is the same as saying to a recruiter in an interview for you are a "perfectionist" as your "flaw". All that has nothing to do with the VA, that isn't the only dub in FFXIV, with many like myself that played either in VO or VF depending on the character I play.

    For some, she is the reason they didn't liked the whole MSQ, which is one of the main point of FFXIV, so while excessive, I think it's quite understandable since it means for them 2 years of boring storyline to follow.

    It's not a mystery if many are saying that the 7.2 is in the "right path", with Real Sphene connecting with the WoL rather than with Wuk Lamat, and her being artificially made less relevant, nearly absent of the whole MSQ ("oh, yeah I need to talk to those people about coming to Tuliyollal, I wasn't supposed to be the one Real Sphene would connect to make a parallel with AI Sphene and this wasn't changed at the very last moment because of the MSQ criticisms").
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  8. #3388
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeresaFortell View Post
    It is still ongoing as of now because, as I have observed, some have yet to complete the story or may have just finished it, and they are posting in this thread to share their opinions.
    God that's a mood. I can get that, though.
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  9. #3389
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    Mimilla Milla
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    You can tell the people who've never played Genshin Impact by the people complaining about Wuk Lamat being 'omnipresent'. Because don't get me wrong, she was clingier than I'd like, but she's nothing compared to whatever Paimon was, and Paimon had genuinely the most ear-grating VA work humanly possible for almost 5 years.
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  10. #3390
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    Alassra Do'urden
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon View Post
    You can tell the people who've never played Genshin Impact by the people complaining about Wuk Lamat being 'omnipresent'. Because don't get me wrong, she was clingier than I'd like, but she's nothing compared to whatever Paimon was, and Paimon had genuinely the most ear-grating VA work humanly possible for almost 5 years.
    Well yes, I never played Genshin Impact, but from what I know, while the Lore is sometimes complimented, neither the general story nor the storytelling was renown in Genshin Impact, unlike FFXIV.

    And even more from what I understand, this Paimon is more or like the "guideline NPC" basically the tutorial NPC, not unlike Navi in Ocarina of Time... so always being there is quite logical.
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