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  1. #41
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    Remolia's Avatar
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    Remi Poemi
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    Omega
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    well technically it is that and mentor if they break tos have way harsher punishment for breaking those rules.

    that's a thing people often forget
    they don't, its the same for everyone
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  2. #42
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    HikariNoTaka's Avatar
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    Kyoshiro Aoyama
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    Spriggan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Wah, wah, i cant MT.

    You can Mt, provided you outdps me. You are not making everything harder for everyone (healer especially) because your ego commands you to be the MT, if i have higher item level than you i will always MT just as when i find someone with better gear than me i let them MT. Its this easy. Also provoke should never be used unless you have a mandatory tankswap mechanic wich....doesnt exist in any casual content because EVERYONE and ANYONE must be able to do this no matter how braincells they might have left as you clearly demonstrated. This game is way too forgiving with clueless people and toxic positivity is RUINING it. I had a THAUMATURGE in a lv 100 dungeon last night, when will it be enough?
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  3. #43
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    Shistar's Avatar
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    Character
    Cordelia Crow
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HikariNoTaka View Post
    [...] Also provoke should never be used unless you have a mandatory tankswap mechanic wich....doesnt exist in any casual content [...]

    The only other acceptable times to do provoke is to adjust wonky boss positioning so melees can do their thing, and of course annoy the provoke spammers :P
    I truly don't understand why they didn't add a note in the novice hall like "Hey this skill here, don't spam it, it's not an attack, don't rip aggro unless you're in a position to tank this mob" because wow, some sprouts out there are out on a mission to make us miss every single positional LOL and we don't have many left!
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  4. #44
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    Nero-Voidstails's Avatar
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    Nero Tsukimi
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    Zalera
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Remolia View Post
    they don't, its the same for everyone
    you are aware it is mention when you get the mentor status? that you have to be on your best behavior? because punishment will be harsher?
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  5. #45
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    Remolia's Avatar
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    Remi Poemi
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    Omega
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    you are aware it is mention when you get the mentor status? that you have to be on your best behavior? because punishment will be harsher?
    I am getting a "Notification about your behaviour" mail almost every month, because people report me nonstop. Nothing happens.
    You either violated the ToS, or u didn't. It does not matter if u a mentor or not.
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  6. #46
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    Nero-Voidstails's Avatar
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    Nero Tsukimi
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remolia View Post
    I am getting a "Notification about your behaviour" mail almost every month, because people report me nonstop. Nothing happens.
    You either violated the ToS, or u didn't. It does not matter if u a mentor or not.
    believe what you do but I know they can revoke the right of mentorship to someone and I have seen first hand how heavily punish you are when you wear the crown. but true who I am to know right?
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  7. #47
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    Remolia's Avatar
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    Remi Poemi
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    Omega
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    believe what you do but I know they can revoke the right of mentorship to someone and I have seen first hand how heavily punish you are when you wear the crown. but true who I am to know right?
    they did not revoke mentorship. If u violate the ToS, u get banned/suspended/warned. If u kick some one with no reason from NN chat - u get a penalty if the person reports u, because its a part of ToS. Same for everything else. If its against ToS - u get a penalty, if its not tos, u don't. Mentor does not add anything.
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  8. #48
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    Miradelle's Avatar
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    Miranda Vara
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    Mateus
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ArmaDragkun View Post
    "Be an exemplar for player etiquette."
    Just because YOU think it's part of etiquette for a mentor to acquiesce to a sprout, and abandon all their own wants, does not mean that it is. You won't get suspended nor a warning for not saying "sure go for it." If a mentor really wants to tank that day, but they get only sprouts on their first time, they HAVE TO give it up? It's NICE if they do, but not mandatory, especially for someone this entitled.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArmaDragkun View Post
    DON'T BE A MENTOR WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT COMES WITH THAT
    Or .. If you have specific conditions and needs like this that no one else agrees to upon queueing up, then use the party finder. If it means to you this much, why risk getting someone that won't let you play out your main character fantasy?

    Quote Originally Posted by ArmaDragkun View Post
    you are supposed to allow the other person to tank. That is literally part of the package of being a mentor.
    This here is the problem. People expect mentors to be this subclass that is supposed to just cuck out and make sure that others have the best possible time while ignoring their own wants. Newsflash, people who are mentors also play this game to have fun. If YOU want to change the mentor status to be that, then lobby for it. Mentors are just chill ppl that give advice.


    Quote Originally Posted by ArmaDragkun View Post
    then take the damn crown off.
    What actually changes? The sprout still doesn't get to tank. You know what the mentor should do? They should advice them how to use the party finder for next time.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArmaDragkun View Post
    It's like volunteering to help someone drive and then refusing to allow them to drive

    I'm sorry, where is THAT listed again that a mentor is supposed to take a backseat and forsake their own gameplay desires? Etiquette =//= Sacrifice own gameplay desires. You can argue it as much as you want, but until I see people getting suspended for MTing when a sprout asks to MT, then nope.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArmaDragkun View Post
    mentors who are butthurt over the fact they feel called out
    Who's post is this is again that's crying about mentors not being their personal retainers? I've no issue with letting sprouts tank, I don't gain anything from tanking a boss, but I also don't think I am EXPECTED to do that. I'm disagreeing on principle of what mentors are expected to do. Like, just on principle, you have no issue if a non-mentor "ruins" a sprout's first time, but you do if it's a mentor?? Sounds like mentor racism /s

    Quote Originally Posted by ArmaDragkun View Post
    "Oh look at me I'm so super special and awesome
    This is something only non-mentors say. Mentor status means nothing due to how easy it is to acquire. I'll put on my Mentor of Mentors title for you, though, since mentors like me seem to upset you so much.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArmaDragkun View Post
    they should remove the crown
    FINALLY SOMETHING WE CAN AGREE ON
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  9. #49
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    Asako's Avatar
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    Character
    Asako Natsume
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Mentor is mainly there to speed up queues for dead content. Don't expect anything from them, most are useless who have just played the game longer. NN is a complete mess, my advice is to leave it instantly.
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  10. #50
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    Miranda Vara
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Asako View Post
    Mentor is mainly there to speed up queues for dead content. Don't expect anything from them, most are useless who have just played the game longer. NN is a complete mess, my advice is to leave it instantly.
    That's mentor roulette that's for speeding up queues, and most mentors don't have mentor roulette unlocked, because it means they have to do content.

    NN seems pretty fine from what I've seen on crystal, people answer questions whenever people asked and otherwise just talk to keep it active and not seem like a dead channel.
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