Now that the game is officially on its deathbed, what are your thoughts?

[Alice_Rivers]

Wait, what?

It's possible I wasn't paying much attention since it wasn't content for me, but r/ffxiv and r/ffxivdiscussion were both dominated by raiders whining that CAR was absolute shit.

I loved chaotic, I hated the prog liars but I loved the fight, 10/10 would do a hundred more times.

[Mawlzy]

I loved chaotic, I hated the prog liars but I loved the fight, 10/10 would do a hundred more times.

Yeah I'm aware some people did, but my sense was that it annoyed one chunk of the player base because they were expecting a harder version of an actual alliance raid, and half the raiding community because they had to share the stage with people less adept than them.

[Zakuyia]

Frankly as someone who was hear at the Tail end of storm blood....god bless that expansion for having some form of diversity in class design. The game peaked at Shadow Bringer and Fell from there. Endwalker was good but glaring issues with writting and pacing. Going into Dawntrail. Its been a slog, constant story skipping, rolling eyes, tone death writing, terrible armor choices, terrible raid gear choices in terms of cruiser weight looking like dungeon gear, over bearing presence of wuk lamat, occ issues, lack of funding, mismanaging player base, not understanding player base - casual / Mid core / Hardcore, the need to please everyone but not pleasing no one, recent raiding of bluesky really shows me.....

Nothing wrong let SE carry on clearly they find it ok so why shouldn't we * if you catch my drift* let it all play out eventually it gotta get worse before it gets better right?

[DoubleJustice]

Chaotic was great. I'm excited for the next one!

[Doki]

Game isn't dead, it's just 13 years in and well into brain-dead recycle content mode. Just look at FFXI's history and you can see the same pattern. They will refuse to listen, apoligize for doing it again, then do it again a year later and act surprised all over again.

[Zackneifein]

It's quite simple.

This game can work if :
The MSQ is good and attracting a massive amount of new players and making people stay to see what's next, even if the rest of the game is bad / mid.
The MSQ is bad / mid but there is a lot of content and the said content is good.

We are in a situation with a MSQ that was mostly badly received and having not much content that is of questionable quality (not all but most).

It's not the first time it happened, but it's the first time we are mostly certain that it will last probably for more than a year, even if 7.2 was in the good direction - in my opinion - to make the MSQ on the right path again.

[Rencith]

I am going to add any extra choice to your end list: "forget all this nonsense, im going to go play WoW."

[Volgia]

Wait, what?

It's possible I wasn't paying much attention since it wasn't content for me, but r/ffxiv and r/ffxivdiscussion were both dominated by raiders whining that CAR was absolute shit.

That's probably the lag reaction coming. People hate Eureka back in the day, they though Bozja got boring fast, but when OC was coming people lauded as these types of content were heavy hitters, it's just the way of the MMO average player to just hate everything that comes out of the gate for some reason.

[BigCheez]

That's probably the lag reaction coming. People hate Eureka back in the day, they though Bozja got boring fast, but when OC was coming people lauded as these types of content were heavy hitters, it's just the way of the MMO average player to just hate everything that comes out of the gate for some reason.

Eureka received a lot of tweaks over time that improved the experience. To this day, it's still one of the most active and well-loved pieces of content in the game.

[Volgia]

Eureka received a lot of tweaks over time that improved the experience. To this day, it's still one of the most active and well-loved pieces of content in the game.

I agree, just when it came out everyone hated it, especially Pagos. I still have friends with Pagos PTSD.

IMO the thing I hate the most about Bozja and OC is that we don't have 4 maps. I want MORE maps.