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    Nero-Voidstails's Avatar
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    Nero Tsukimi
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    Quote Originally Posted by ritualgoth View Post
    I am one of the many latinos upset by the newest gear presented for patch 7.3. The inspiration of Spanish and French armor used by people who perpetrated violent colonization against North and South American peoples is incredibly disappointing.

    It is correct that it is not an exact 1:1 of either Spanish or French armor, and more a blend of the two, but the fact that this many people can look at it and immediately know where the inspiration comes from is enough.

    As stated in one of the Encyclopaedia Eorzeas:
    "Secondly, we can’t use anything that has real-world religious or cultural connotations. If we want to make something that draws from religious imagery, ethnic clothing, and so on, it needs to be significantly altered. FINAL FANTASY XIV is played all around the world, and just because something is allowed in Japan doesn’t necessarily mean it can be used in other countries, so we pay close attention to this."

    Why, then, does this gear include a clear inspiration to armor used during a period of violent colonization towards those native to the Americas?

    The FFXIV team had the wherewithal to be so immensely careful about the visual portrayal of the Garleans; knowing where to take influence without being offensive. Realizing which military uniforms to not use as a stepping point for the portrayal of an oppressive imperial force. How did we go from that careful nature to this blatant disregard for the history of the Americas?

    This is incredibly disappointing to me, who has been playing this game since 1.0. I urge the dev team to rethink their inclusion of materials like this and to return to your own design mission statement.
    ok so where you oppressed? did you live any of those moment? because as you said this is history yes for sure but you didn't live those moments you can find it poor tasted for sure. But harmful? how? do please explain me as someone who didn't live such event?
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    Estelle Labelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    ok so where you oppressed? did you live any of those moment? because as you said this is history yes for sure but you didn't live those moments you can find it poor tasted for sure. But harmful? how? do please explain me as someone who didn't live such event?
    So it would be totally okay to have a nazi-inspired outfit with the red arm band and all, just because it is something that happened in the past?
    There is a line. You know this just as well as anyone else here does. You're being disingenuous. Just admit that you don't care about this particular group of people hurt by the imagery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicGuitars View Post
    So it would be totally okay to have a nazi-inspired outfit with the red arm band and all, just because it is something that happened in the past?
    There is a line. You know this just as well as anyone else here does. You're being disingenuous. Just admit that you don't care about this particular group of people hurt by the imagery.
    When you watch Star Wars, are you offended by the empire or the first order? First Order have a full nazi speech scene.
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    Altina Orion
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicGuitars View Post
    So it would be totally okay to have a nazi-inspired outfit with the red arm band and all, just because it is something that happened in the past?
    There is a line. You know this just as well as anyone else here does. You're being disingenuous. Just admit that you don't care about this particular group of people hurt by the imagery.
    Comparing the inquisitions to nazi germany is a fucked up and racist take. Also, this looks nothing like inquisition attire. So you're completely in the wrong and unhinged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altina_Orion View Post
    Comparing the inquisitions to nazi germany is a fucked up and racist take. Also, this looks nothing like inquisition attire. So you're completely in the wrong and unhinged.
    Uhm. The Inquisition occurred in Europe, by Europeans against (mostly) Europeans. The European genocide of the indigenous people of the Americas killed an order of magnitude more people than the Holocaust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Uhm. The Inquisition occurred in Europe, by Europeans against (mostly) Europeans. The European genocide of the indigenous people of the Americas killed an order of magnitude more people than the Holocaust.
    Regardless, this looks nothing like conquistador attire so whats your point? This clearly looks NOTHING like what conquistadors wore yet here you are, posting about a game you don't even play.
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