How do you feel about incoming housing updates?

[Khryseis_Astra]

I’d be much more excited if it wasn’t blatantly obvious they’re just going to make any ‘upgrades’ cost the exact same as the literal plot itself, between 8M-20M to upgrade to medium and 20-50M to upgrade to large.

Yes, I’m aware ‘tHaTs cHuMp ChAnGe’ to your average 999,999,999 Gil FFXIV player; the vast majority will pay it effortlessly and chastise anyone who dares complain. But I haven’t figure out how tf everyone else managed to get there (and apparently so easily…). So it’s like they’re promising one thing then actually giving nothing (to me because I’m poor).

Assuming that’s how they do work it, which is extremely likely, if not just because if they even considered another alternative there’d be an absolute furore from the community about ‘They got a large interior but they didn’t have to pay the same amount as me to buy a large plot of land, END THEM YOSHI’. Plus they probably think they can artificially lower the amount of large interiors the server has to deal with if they make it so prohibitively expensive no mortal being can afford it (except FFXIV’s economy isn’t that balanced lol)

Personally I think it should be slightly cheaper to upgrade just because you’re NOT getting the land to go with it! Housing is paid by plot size, and then you have a permit fee to build the house. Not sure what they’re planning, but I would hope it’s more along the lines of the permit price: call it a remodeling permit. At any rate, this feature is something they said they’re working on but hasn’t been given a definite timeline. It’s the item increase we’re hoping hits in 7.3, unless they’re really going to surprise us in the next LL.

As far as making Gil, I struggle with that myself… you just have to find the things that people are willing to pay a lot for. Selling the stuff my retainers bring me doesn’t net me a lot, but OC has been good. Most of the things you get from chests are so cheap on the mb now it’s not even funny. But if you’re lucky, you’ll get multiple copies of the new emote, which still sells well because it’s a rarer drop, and fortune carrots. I quickly learned that most fortune carrots only got me a couple materia and some fireworks, so they’re not worth it to me. But there’s an achievement for using a lot of them (1k I think?) so they go for almost 2 mil a piece on the mb. Gold farming will not only give you more gold to buy glams to keep or sell (also about a mil per piece), but also helps your chests respawn faster so hopefully you get more carrots to sell, and the vendor trash crystals for 1k a piece. Just got to 60 mil, so it’s modest, but it helps. Also rare drops from treasure dungeons: the 2 minions from the Elpis map can be almost 100 mil on some servers! Or if you like to hunt, but the mount vouchers and sell those for about 100k a pop.

[CidHeiral]

But I haven’t figure out how tf everyone else managed to get there (and apparently so easily…).

Simply doing the MSQ gives you millions of gil, but beyond that you can sell crafted items, gathered items, materia on patches with new raid/crafted sets, tomestone materials, bicolor gemstone items, buy and flip marketboard items, do treasure maps, and the list goes on. You can make tons of gil in this game with little effort.

If you want to get ahead of the game, next patch there should be new crafting/gathering sets so if you're not in a position to actually craft those sets you could start hoarding crafting/gathering materia and prepare your gathering jobs to gather the materials other people will need. I don't know if they'll use tomestone mats or not but if they do you can make a killing selling those as well while the demand is there. Just do your roulettes every day to get the currency to buy them.

[Shistar]

Yes, I’m aware ‘tHaTs cHuMp ChAnGe’ to your average 999,999,999 Gil FFXIV player; the vast majority will pay it effortlessly and chastise anyone who dares complain. But I haven’t figure out how tf everyone else managed to get there (and apparently so easily…)

Some people have already given you great tips. You can find even more advice on youtube and other places.
If you are in an FC you manage, submarines are a good way of making gil passively and without MB interference once you set it up. Expect the setup to take at least about 6 months, but once it's working at full capacity, you only have to pop into the workshop every other day to press a few buttons and retrieve your money :P people love to look down on others for telling you this advice, but if it's an option to you then it'd be silly not to use it. If you want to make even more money, go for housing exteriors. But that takes MUCH more work than going the jewelry route.


When the unreal market was doing very well back before DT, my friends and I made a collective 350M just by selling the stuff you can buy with the faux leaves and supplementing it with submarine management. We made that amount because we wanted an FC mansion (which we got, because Phantom is a ghost town and no one bid for our mansion except us lol)


I don't do any crafting or gathering, but doing some market research and staying on top of trends can net you a lot of gil. If you want to make insane amounts of gil and do it quickly, it'll take more work. If you don't mind building your way up there slowly, I bought my 20M medium just from roulette money. Make sure you always go as adventurer in need if you can help it, since it'll give you a little extra. Desynth all of the gear and drops you find and sell the raw materials. If you do extremes, desynth the weapons since you can get lucky and sell stuff like the Hydaelyn crystals that got much more expensive than they used to be when the glowy weapons released. Believe it or not, since Variant is dead content, anything that comes from that can get expensive simply because there aren't many people who do it anymore. You can solo it easily.


I exclusively do battle content, so my advice is limited to that. I'm not saying the players who are poor are because they want to, but some of you need to stop getting scammed buying glam off the MB lol GamerEscape, GarlandTools and crafting your own stuff is your best friend. You can still get everything you want for much cheaper if you aren't completely against inconveniencing yourself to get it crafted. If you can't craft it, always check Universalis to find the cheapest price and get that.
You can also save up on teleports by buying Aetheryte Tickets from doing hunts or getting a -15% teleport fee buff scroll from telling your squadron to go do stuff once a week. That's the equivalent of a Rank 3 FC buff, with the caveat that it isn't a 24hr buff.



There's also another thing to consider: XIV had much more expensive housing in the past, and it was meant to be used as a way to entice Legacy players to spend their 1.0 fortune and hopefully put them closer to an equal level with the 2.0 gang. It was a long time ago, but I feel like it's worth mentioning because that is everything housing is; a gil sink and a status symbol. Whether we think decorating anything bigger than an apartment is locked behind this is unfair is another topic, but housing was always designed to be a gil sink for those who can afford it. The good thing is that making gil has become leagues better than it used to be (and housing has become much cheaper since back then, go check out the original prices if you want a jumpscare) from what I've heard.

I hope you find a comfortable way to make the gil you need. It might be a good idea to let us know what kind of content you usually do, so that people who are familiar with it can give you more tailored advice.

[Antoine_Lenheim]

The size increase is good for people who need more space, but it won't solve the issue of how hard it is to actually get a house. Just like OP said, it might worsen the housing shortage.

The whole lottery/ward system should be deleted. This game needs collectible instanced houses, similar to ESO. That way every player can finally have a house!

Instanced probably never happening, SE is keen on keeping the neighbourhood housing system in their game. Most we can expect from them are more wards/new residential districts.

[Altina_Orion]

It was never about every player having a house. Wards/districts are exclusive for a reason. It makes people want them more, but more specifically it makes people not want to give them up once they have them and hence stay subscribed.

[Briayi]

Same problem, I have now been trying for ONE FULL YEAR to get an individual house and a FC house, can't get either and being for almost 3/4's of that time the demo's were off with over 200 people bidding on maybe 4 open houses and that's each house not total but yet all I hear from Square is complaints of losing players and yet nobody seems to be able to get a house so maybe add more houses or at least 2 more housing zones. An under water housing area would be great or a moon one!! instead of trying to to add things to the current housing which is not enough ADD new zones to help out.

[Ayan_Calvesse]

Well.

First I applaud the tardis system; Many players want a bigger home; done. I feel this is going to be the "bait and switch" with folks asking for higher item limits "well a small becoming a large adds 200 slots; so I gave you what you wanted!" but I am still waiting for that shoe to drop - they might increase larges to 500-600 perhaps but leave smalls 200 and meds to 400.

As for the dimensions issue I think its moot because many of the best designs compress the space to make the house look less like a furniture showroom.

As for the fear that all the smalls will disappear.

Thats because the groups and FCs aren't bidding on them; literally folks are constantly passing over the smalls and its "medium or nothing" mindset that frankly shows how entitled folks been acting.

[Rinoa_353]

Well.

First I applaud the tardis system; Many players want a bigger home; done. I feel this is going to be the "bait and switch" with folks asking for higher item limits "well a small becoming a large adds 200 slots; so I gave you what you wanted!" but I am still waiting for that shoe to drop - they might increase larges to 500-600 perhaps but leave smalls 200 and meds to 400.

As for the dimensions issue I think its moot because many of the best designs compress the space to make the house look less like a furniture showroom.

As for the fear that all the smalls will disappear.

Thats because the groups and FCs aren't bidding on them; literally folks are constantly passing over the smalls and its "medium or nothing" mindset that frankly shows how entitled folks been acting.

I need more slots, double would be ideal since I'm actually using all of the space in my home in LB but with the current limit (400), I only decorated the main and upper floor. I hope to decorate the basement and also add more detail to the main and upper floor when the expanded furnishing limit arrives.


Yeah, I agree but now that smalls will be allowed to have the space of a large inside soon, I'd say that will entice more people and FC's to get a small plot.

[s32ialx]

If ownership of a house was the only thing to make FFXIV appealing to a player, they had plenty of opportunity (and still have that opportunity) to pick up a house by creating a character on a Dynamis world.

yes cause being forced to pick up and move everything to a new datacenter or world even just to get a house and lose all your friends because now it's spend time in your house or DC travel to see friend. YES THAT'S fair, totally fair opportunity for everyone to just start over fuck the 10 years they spent on one server the friends and memories they made there don't matter because they want a house so they have to give up all that even though they've spent $15 a month for 10 years just on subscriptions not even counting cosmetics, dyes, emotes and other mogstation items, they don't deserve or have the right to complain that they can't get a house they have to just suck it up and move.

Amazing logic you have.

[Shistar]

yes cause being forced to pick up and move everything to a new datacenter or world even just to get a house and lose all your friends because now it's spend time in your house or DC travel to see friend. YES THAT'S fair, totally fair opportunity for everyone to just start over fuck the 10 years they spent on one server the friends and memories they made there don't matter because they want a house so they have to give up all that even though they've spent $15 a month for 10 years just on subscriptions not even counting cosmetics, dyes, emotes and other mogstation items, they don't deserve or have the right to complain that they can't get a house they have to just suck it up and move.

Amazing logic you have.

I agree moving your main can be extreme... specially to a DC known for struggling to pop daily roulettes. What you could try instead, if you have the time and you feel like it, is make an alt in a server you can check for availability beforehand. You don't even have to boost it if you don't want to shell out the money since ARR is fairly quick to get through and the Grand Company stuff practically gets itself done if you spam Leveling roulette as adventurer in need. That should hopefully alleviate the roulette wait times as well.


It's not ideal since of course you'd rather have the house on your main, but it can tide you over and keep you entertained while you still participate in lotteries on your main. I personally just moved my main to a less populated server and had pretty decent luck scoring my dream plot, but EU is also only two DCs and we don't have the problems Dynamis or OCE has. I also had to participate in the lottery multiple times, wanted to give up, etc. I don't know how big Behemoth is, but I assume investing in a small alt and having a friend help you trade furniture and gil for you to play with in the meantime will be more worth than sitting homeless until you win a lottery.


The good thing is that if you win on your main then great! You have two houses to play with now. Don't want two houses? You can let go of the alt's house once you get your main's, and forget about the alt until you need it again for any reason.