I just got an account warning for "grief tactics" and I literally have no idea why

[ServerCollaps]

Classic.

What exactly did you say?

"Who's ready to pretend to like PvP for 20 minutes" and "hey, if we pick one side to feed, we can end it faster"

he posted it earlier

[Kranel_San]

It's quite possible that any typing in chat in a FL match on topics other than the battle will get you reported. There isn't time in a fast-paced duty like that to be typing.

Simple solution, stop typing and play the game.

If this is truly offensive, then what happened to the social aspect of MMOs in this game? It's what makes the experience memorable after all.

I've played multiple MMOs, both with open-world PvP and with instances (Their frontlines counterpart) and one of my most memorable experience is the one that happened in WoW back in 2016 where we (The Horde) got demolished by the enemy (The Alliance) and were just talking and throwing jokes in the chat. Another one was having a group fishing (Including with the other faction) inside the instance itself.

Truth be told, I feel the OP here. Because SE or its customer support needs to stop listening to every single complaint and ticket raised. If someone is bothered, let them be bothered because it doesn't automatically make them correct. Unless there's a clear case of gameplay sabotage with malicious intentions (Encouraging the people to give up, refusing to heal, etc...) that is REPEATED and not a one-off happening, then yes, there could be some TOS enforcements happening. If it's just people enjoying or having fun together, while still actively participating and not being outright rude to another player, then why would they get a warning/ban?

They also need to be clear about what the violation is, rather than simply mentioning the violated rule, because I know multiple people who have received warnings and bans without knowing what their violation is exactly. Just a vague rule that could be interpreted differently by each person.

[Themarvin]

Actually there is if you don't win then que again and go at it. It's not the end of the world. You keep trying though it's better to only focus on yourself you'd do better in the long run.

Only thing that counts in PvP in FFXIV is winning, also this post is about a person that think has been wrongfully warned for having done bad stuff towards others in possible pvp.

[yesnt]

Nah, don't believe it. People chat in frontline sometimes. To get in trouble with the GMs you must have done a little more than some harmless banter.

[Avoidy]

You'll never find out either. Welcome to Reason #28397429083 that nobody says anything in roulettes or in groups with strangers anymore.
There's actually a lot you can get away with in this game as long as you don't say anything. We've had threads where people were stalked by someone who simply followed another player against that player's wishes, but since all they were ultimately doing was showing up and standing there, action wasn't taken against them. And I've had plenty of passive aggressive duty roulette heroes who play like garbage on purpose after feeling slighted in some way, but since they never made it loudly known that they were griefing, they got to just continue griefing in the future. Lesson learned, right? Can't say shit in this game. But stalking, clogging towns with hundreds of identical copies of an eyesore alt, griefing quietly, and just being an obnoxious piece of shit in passive aggressive ways? Totally fine. Welcome to Final Fantasy XIV. We like this!

Also LMAO at all the people who don't believe OP, like it's so unbelievable that the narcissistic fragile people who play this game might get butthurt over some minor remark and the moderation team would do what they're notorious for doing (which, again, is why NOBODY SPEAKS WITH RANDOMS) and just issue a warning over basically nothing. The fact that they don't even tell you what you did wrong shows that they don't want transparency, because they realize they're full of shit and don't want people viciously mocking them on social media.

[yesnt]

(which, again, is why NOBODY SPEAKS WITH RANDOMS)

Nobody speaks with randoms? Are we playing the same game? Because I see loads of chat everywhere and usually people reply casually in roulettes when they are in the mood. If you regularly get ignored by other players it might be because you type stuff that isn't very inviting.

[Altina_Orion]

Some people actually like playing the game and winning. Shocking, I know.

There will always be people who don't care about FL wins. They might be on your team, they might be on others. The sooner you come to understand this the sooner you realize it all balances out and you find true zen.

[Kranel_San]

There will always be people who don't care about FL wins. They might be on your team, they might be on others. The sooner you come to understand this the sooner you realize it all balances out and you find true zen.

That's true. Some people queue for frontlines for the daily rewards, others just for the sake of PvPing (As in, doesn't matter if it's a win or lose, they just want to fight someone)

This is a general rule for any online game. Not everyone involved is the same.

[0blivion]

frontline gives series exp and half a level. if i have to tolerate cure I users in dungeons, pvp mains have to tolerate people having fun in alliance chat

[Astronis]

How did this person get that warning but the Weebo Police still gets away with disrupting Limsa with hundreds of copies????

Because apparently SE even hardware banned one of them and he got around it? That group of trolls is *dedicated*.

As for this particular thread...yeah, SE enforces its TOS quite strictly. It's a Japanese game with Japanese norms enforcement, and that results in what a lot of Western gamers feel is an extremely fake politeness. One way or another, your average player isn't going to encounter a lot of easily misconstrued banter or trashtalk in the game and the community at large will absolutely not tolerate suggestions of throwing PVP matches no matter how lighthearted and in jest you think the suggestion was made.

Kind of comes down to the Ancient Internet Adage: LURK MOAR. Find out what the community at large is like before barreling in. Shame OP had to spend $60 to find out he doesn't like the community though.