I just got an account warning for "grief tactics" and I literally have no idea why

[Router]

Yeah you kind of just have to just never talk or be always super nice and triple think anything you say because of how strict the rules are behind communication, even obvious jokes will be took as serious, I've seen a friend get reported for calling someone a "nasty person" and warned because some dude was crashing out in a dungeon because they weren't playing their job correctly and was being horrible to the healer when it was their fault.

FF14 isn't a "nice community" a lot of it is people just pretending to be nice. ff14 has a tendency to be very fake kind, once you join a big community or you'll see that people are just as toxic as other games, likely even more prone to lie and cause big drama's over nothing.

There used to be a group of people who'd meet up on Balmung and chat in /say about random stuff; I didn't engage with them much but I occasionally visited to say hi to a friend who was there. One day some guy apparently got mad at at this group for some reason or another and he proceeded to sit there for hours every day reporting anything remotely reportable in chat. People there ended up getting warned for basic stuff like expletives, and sure enough everyone stopped talking in public and moved to tells/Discord. Sadly the game is absolutely filled with antisocial weirdos like that, and as a result XIV is probably one of the most quiet MMOs out there with barely anyone talking in public. It's a real shame.

[MitsukiKimura]

It's quite possible that any typing in chat in a FL match on topics other than the battle will get you reported. There isn't time in a fast-paced duty like that to be typing.

Simple solution, stop typing and play the game.

This kind of attitude I have a problem with. If they are making jokes while actively participating then there's no issue or "shouldn't be". If you're going to gripe over something because you think 1 man not typing for 15mins can change a course of a frontline match you're mistaken. I can sure you 90% of the people don't care and if you're one of those people that gets mad over it then you need to go outside.

[TheDustyOne]

This games community isn't as "nice" as many claim it to be. Just look at how much people go at each others throats over the recent Fork Tower incidents, how much the hardcore groups blame casuals for dumbing down the game, how those same casual groups blame the hardcore over elitism, how people look at RPers as lonesome gooners who do things I will not say in this thread. Funnily enough, I now see casuals complaining that the hardcore crowd dumbed down the jobs to make it easier for Square to design raids with.

Many of these stereotypes can be true for these groups, but not everyone (I'd argue most) don't fall into those stereotypes. Hardcore players just like hard content, they don't want normal content taken away, and they'll learn how to play jobs regardless of how smart or dumb they are. Casuals just want a good time where they can log on, talk with some friends, do a roulette, or whatever the latest content is; they don't really care that they're not the greatest ever at <insert job here>, just that they find it fun even if they don't have full 100% uptime on their GCD. RPers just like chatting, getting into a character and be part of a story, some are happy to go into more mature stories, others just want light-hearted adventures; not all of them care to sexualize their characters.

Too many people see each other as the enemy, they just hide it behind a fake personality to not get in trouble with the GMs, but boy if that mask slips on another they deem as from the "toxic" part of the community, they're happy to report them out of the game.

[Themarvin]

They wont react unless you actually did something wrong, or your way of playing the game is all the time on the edge and reports just has been piling up or that someone finally had the courage to report it in.

It is not them, it is you.

It means you need to change your approach to things, that is why you got the warning, it literally say so, if you continue the way always did or some of the times you do or whatever, then you may get end getting some days of vacation.

[Rinoa_353]

How did this person get that warning but the Weebo Police still gets away with disrupting Limsa with hundreds of copies????

[Mawlzy]

This kind of attitude I have a problem with. If they are making jokes while actively participating then there's no issue or "shouldn't be". If you're going to gripe over something because you think 1 man not typing for 15mins can change a course of a frontline match you're mistaken. I can sure you 90% of the people don't care and if you're one of those people that gets mad over it then you need to go outside.

Have you ever played frontline? If you're trying to win, there's no time to screw around in chat.

Nobody is going to care about your 200 extra wolf credits over a Casual roulette. Touch grass

Given there are no "wolf credits" I guess the answer is "no." If they existed, I wouldn't care about them either. I'm simply trying to win.

Is this how you engage with other roulettes? Grief your team?

And wth is a "casual roulette"? FL is the only large-scale PvP that actually pops. If people don't want to play the mode, they can choose not to queue.

"Touch grass"? Geez I'm tired of dealing with snippy teenagers.

[Mawlzy]

This games community isn't as "nice" as many claim it to be. Just look at how much people go at each others throats over the recent Fork Tower incidents, how much the hardcore groups blame casuals for dumbing down the game, how those same casual groups blame the hardcore over elitism, how people look at RPers as lonesome gooners who do things I will not say in this thread. Funnily enough, I now see casuals complaining that the hardcore crowd dumbed down the jobs to make it easier for Square to design raids with.

This I agree with, but it's an unavoidable problem.

The broader gaming community as a whole isn't particularly nice. FFXIV has a faux reputation for being nice simply because it's aggressively moderated.

One consequence is that the bottled-up nastiness tends to get expressed in other ways, either through cunning implementations of the report function as a form of PvP, or through the hostility and bile you find on many 14-related Discord servers.

[Mawlzy]

How did this person get that warning but the Weebo Police still gets away with disrupting Limsa with hundreds of copies????

Probably because the OP committed an easily verifiable ToS violation.

[MitsukiKimura]

Have you ever played frontline? If you're trying to win, there's no time to screw around in chat.

Nobody is going to care about your 200 extra wolf credits over a Casual roulette. Touch grass

[zarahleo]

I'm trying to figure out what I did here and I really don't know. The day it happened, I only did two things that were with other players: a single roulette raid and Frontlines. I said a few snarky things in chat, I'll admit, so I could understand if I had gotten a warning for language or something of that nature, but I have no idea what I could have done to get this.

Here's the TOS I supposedly violated.

3.2 Disruption. You may not in any way disrupt or interfere with the Game experience of other players, including the disruption of Square Enix's computers and servers.

This has me scared to continue playing the game. I don't want to pour time and money into an account just to have it banned for literally no reason.

Ive said this in another thread, the sooner you learn to not speak in public chat the longer you will keep your account. Remember, cotton wool is everywhere.