Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[Rawazh]

Quote (posted on jp forum). Feel free to use the pics.
Will add other races later.

Can i ask you to do a simple screenshot of the female middie face 2 please? The lips looks really good and way closer to their original version!
I tried to create a wechat account but it doesn't work at all, to test it by myself, and i just wanted to see if their face are faithfull to the pre 7.0 version
Thank you very much in advance ! ♥

[eldadyfa]

Adding my voice as well.

I submitted reports about my characters back in September 2024: 1, 2
and I’d like to point out that they still look like completely different people.

Patch 6.58 and 7.25 screenshot comparisons:

It’s been a year now, and I still don’t have the heart to continue any story content when I can’t see my characters the way they always used to look.
I'd still occasionally log in for old raids, but even then, there’s no such thing as “getting used to the new face and growing fond of it instead” for me, lol.
When I look back at the old screenshots, I can’t lie, I’m much more fond of how their faces looked before the graphics update.

Since 2020 for my Au Ra and 2022 for my Viera, I’ve never felt the need to pick a different option for their facial features at all. I was always very happy with how they looked — everything was already perfect to me.

I understand that the graphics update is needed to catch up with today’s standard, and that’s actually fine with me — if only they had retained the shapes of the characters’ facial features, so they could "preserve the overall look that you know and love", as they once said.

[moodud]

Can i ask you to do a simple screenshot of the female middie face 2 please? The lips looks really good and way closer to their original version!
I tried to create a wechat account but it doesn't work at all, to test it by myself, and i just wanted to see if their face are faithfull to the pre 7.0 version
Thank you very much in advance ! ♥

Of course. But since I don’t actually know what particular parts you are looking for I’d just post them all.
Type 1 is jaw type 1, eye type 1, nose type 1, and so on. Type 5 is eyes and brows? I don’t remember sorry.
No facial feature.

[Rawazh]

Of course. But since I don’t actually know what particular parts you are looking for I’d just post them all.
Type 1 is jaw type 1, eye type 1, nose type 1, and so on. Type 5 is eyes and brows? I don’t remember sorry.
No facial feature.

It's more than i hoped for, thank you so so much !!
i just really wanted to see the overall feel of the face, which was quite angular compared to the other faces, they also had more putty lips and looked older in general, and i feel like with DT they lost all that made them a bit special !
As you can see with the comparison :
(I couldn't do a proper DT screenshot because i canceled my sub so i have no access to the game, i took old screenshots from the msq, but i barely took some since, i'm still having a hard time to recognize my character, i lost the will to gpose and take screenshots in general)



A montage with my character feature and color skin:



(Also since DT came out i never asked for the face to be fixed since it's not popular and SE clearly do not care lol)

[Aco505]

Saw this post and it made me realize, the bodies of the characters seem to have higher quality on mobile. When are we getting that in the actual main game?

[Argantaelle]

Is there...hope?

I'm afraid they are talking about environmental graphic improvements for 7.3 content only, like fixing floating rocks or something of the kind (just a regular pre-patch QA routine). Mr. Yoshida wants to say that 7.3 is almost ready and is going to arrive on time.

[NightHour]

Yeah and hopefully they don't wait another 4+ years to make actual improvements like when the 3 was phased out. And if FFXIV doesn't phase out 4 psn will urge them to anyway.

Indeed.

I honestly feel like the game could look and feel better if it didn't continue to support a platform that's almost a decade and a half old.


I don't want the game to look like Cyberpunk or anything, that's unrealistic for an MMO but I do feel it could look better.

Saw this post and it made me realize, the bodies of the characters seem to have higher quality on mobile. When are we getting that in the actual main game?

The mobile game doesn't use the ancient Crystal Tools engine like the main game does.

[Minepa]

I mean I'd argue I'm one of the more nitpicky ones (I've been upset about femroe eyes since, check notes, October 2023,) but a majority of my feedback has been Japanese-side because it's allowed me to be much more direct in a field they definitely are observing given the amount of posts that get culled by mods there you don't see it. I would've been enjoying an anniversary this upcoming moonfire with Sko being around since 2015 this year but instead I'm still fighting hard to actually have my character back.

80-90% of the way as things are since 7.2 is just awful.

Mobile IS updated; it uses unreal engine for a start, it's not just a texture glow up there are new polys on the models and even corrected normal maps over what we had in 2.0-6.5 models. They have some aspects of the DT GFX update in their stylings—because the project is supervised and approved by CS3/SQEX—but for the most part they stuck to their Chinese and Japanese page only PR confirmation that character graphic accuracy was going to be a key focus bringing the game to that platform. Something they deliberately omitted from the English page about the game.

Seeing my character actually exist still in a mobile game in what I'd argue is a 99% capacity vs a 90%, 1 year after Benchmark and DT release, and OVER a year since I first pointed out the eye issue, is frustrating as hell.

I respect your efforts to post on the Japanese forums as well. The Japanese forums are clearly having many posts deleted by either the devs monitoring them or someone with moderator/administrator privileges, even when the posts aren't extremely aggressive, harmful, or insulting. The threshold for post deletion feels overwhelmingly lower compared to the English forums and even discriminatory. I'm also continuing to fight mainly on the Japanese forums regarding the graphics updates since Dawntrail (characters, landscapes like the Abalathia's Spine cloudscape, etc.). I'm envious of the mobile version's design.

[Rawazh]

Now that i've seen that the mobile version of a lot of characters is way more faithful to the pre 7.0 version, do you think it would be ok to ask SE to take a closer look at it? why not implement those models in the PC game?

[noumen0nn]

Now that i've seen that the mobile version of a lot of characters is way more faithful to the pre 7.0 version, do you think it would be ok to ask SE to take a closer look at it? why not implement those models in the PC game?

Yes, we should be demanding that they do. The mobile version is proof that the graphics can be updated without sacrificing the original impression, and Dawntrail's own update was a complete failure in that regard. I've been showing the mobile graphics comparisons to friends who aren't in the loop inn order to spread word. Keep bombarding them with feedback and criticism until they are forced to listen.