Is there any hope for next expansion?

[miraidensetsu]

No.

If they not said anything, I can expect nothing will come out of it. That means that they didn't even planned how they'll give healers job identities.

I highly doubt that there will be a change that isn't incremental at best. There will be a new heal, a new update for an attack, a random skill and that's it.

[Qyoon]

Yoshi P said 2 years ago theres not problem with healers gameplay. While they also refuse to profide a DPS rotation.
He also said players should give healers a try. I guess he is the one who isn't giving it a try.
Don't have too much hope, you'll just get frustrated when the sad reality comes.

[Voryn]

Haven’t there just been the vague mentions of job identity coming in 8.0, but not much detail about it?

Either they have to say more about what that entails, or we just wait until we actually see what they do. If they even do much. There could be job reworks, or just small additions that are actually more unique, or just more of the same.

[Calysto]

I guess AST getting a rework is mandatory with an expansion.

As for the job identity focus, it could be a redesign if the Jobs UI and I wouldn't be surprised.
I wouldn't be surprised if they just skipped the whole thing like they never said it either...

So yeah, hope seems an empty promise like 'become the warrior of darkness' or 'go on a vacation'

[Rithy255]

SGE is just far worse SCH honestly

The SGE/SCH imbalance is arguably the most egregious in the game

Well it would be if healers are important lol.

[Naychan]

Are healers going to be part of the major overhaul to reintroduce job identity? Have the Dev's said that they would like to try anything new with Healers? As far as I know it's been radio silence for any plans concerning change. Dawntrail adding only the most superficial abilities to every class after three expansions of lackluster healer gameplay has not left me very hopeful. I do appreciate getting new healing classes like Warrior and Paladin but they seem to take away more fun from actual healers in exchange.

Only if you're hoping for more disapointment. Between content not needing tons of healing and SE not wanting to give more dps options, couple that with them farming out our abilities more and more. I think with a few tweeks and they could get rid of healers all together. Honestly if they are not going to make us actually useful maybe its time to just chuck the whole healer idea. They obvisouly have no clue how to handle it or create content that really needs it. Yes Blah Blah Blah Blah savage where alot of poeple are already getting rid of the 2nd healer to add another dps except on the fights where they have to have one.

[Raikai]

I'm not overly optimistic. I stopped healing in Endwalker, because I thought even there healers already hit a brick wall when it comes to design.

The only thing they can do without changing things around is adding even more healing checks and new healing oGCD actions (or charges to old actions) to cover them up. But how boring and spreadsheet-y this is?

It's a coin toss for now. Yoshi did say at first that we would see something in 7.0, then pushed it to 8.0.

We will know more late this year, when fanfest starts.

More likely... when Fanfests are close to an end. They hardly tell anything really useful in the first one. Maybe the second or third if we're lucky. Most likely post Media tour when it's almost launching.

[CyberNettrix]

I doubt it unfortunately.

[Derio]

I doubt it but wait until fan fest and media tour. That will either be the shining light or the nail in the coffin.

[CaptainLagbeard]

It likely can't get much worse... Just about the only thing left is that SGE and AST still have some of their identity.

WHM has just become a light mage instead of anything related to Conjurer, and SCH has become just angel themed with Seraph and Seraphism...