Difficult experience in Forked Tower – a reminder to respect public content

[Aravell]

I know someone will twist this into me being a Discord overlord that has personally tankbustered 50 randoms and would tankbuster another 50, but I have to ask this question.

If there's so many people who absolutely hate joining Discords but also want to attempt the tower, what exactly is stopping them from going into an instance without an organised group (because there definitely aren't enough organised runs to fill every single instance of South Horn in the DC) and using shout chat to organise their own run? Why perpetuate the back-and-forth hate by clashing with organised groups in the same instance?

[RenegadeInferno]

I know someone will twist this into me being a Discord overlord that has personally tankbustered 50 randoms and would tankbuster another 50, but I have to ask this question.

If there's so many people who absolutely hate joining Discords but also want to attempt the tower, what exactly is stopping them from going into an instance without an organised group (because there definitely aren't enough organised runs to fill every single instance of South Horn in the DC) and using shout chat to organise their own run? Why perpetuate the back-and-forth hate by clashing with organised groups in the same instance?

I would imagine nothing to not very much, it's just the will of people to do it is very low.
I haven't attempted to try to load into the tower yet, but since release I have only seen one shout chat message in OC asking people if they want to do the tower.

[Kasumii]

I know someone will twist this into me being a Discord overlord that has personally tankbustered 50 randoms and would tankbuster another 50, but I have to ask this question.

If there's so many people who absolutely hate joining Discords but also want to attempt the tower, what exactly is stopping them from going into an instance without an organised group (because there definitely aren't enough organised runs to fill every single instance of South Horn in the DC) and using shout chat to organise their own run? Why perpetuate the back-and-forth hate by clashing with organised groups in the same instance?

People here are turned off because *raiders* told them they could never do it. Heck look at this thread. Someone in an earlier post said "Pugs can never get past boss 2" or something in that regard and quite literally said its not doable without discord. If you as a casual player are interested in trying it and people already tell you over and over again that "lol this content isnt meant to be puggable" and "join a discord" then how would you feel? They have been told repeatedly (in my case anyways I dont speak for everyone) that they will never be able to clear the content at all and that if you really want to do it you have to do it via discord. The will to pug it is gone because even if you shout in an instance you will be redirected to one of the numerous discords instead and laughed at by half the instance for even attempting to try it. /shrug

As for why people still try to (in your words) "clash" with premades is that it might be the one and only time for them that there are more than 16 people interested in the instance and they really want to check it out and give it a try. Maybe they tried to organise before. Who knows.

And no, I dont (entirely) blame the discords for it and I dont think you are an evil discord overlord.

[Astronis]

If you as a casual player are interested in trying it and people already tell you over and over again that "lol this content isnt meant to be puggable" and "join a discord" then how would you feel?

I'm not a casual player (or really much of a hardcore player), but when people tell me I can't do something I frequently take it as a challenge to prove them wrong or die trying. I've been playing games long enough and been around the frothing masses of online discourse long enough to have a reasonably decent gauge of when people are blowing things out of proportion one way or another. Only way to really know for sure is to try it myself. I'd hazard a guess that, sight unseen, Forked Tower is difficult enough that a totally random pickup group wouldn't make it through, but YOLO go in and give it a shot, it's just a game. Have some fun.

But then I am frequently doing stupid stuff that ends up with me on the floor with an empty HP bar. Why should I not? I don't lose anything for the attempt! And I tell that same thing to most of the players I know who ARE casual. Go try it! Unless I know them very well (like for ten years well--those people would never suggest I try jumping puzzles and I'd never suggest they try an EX).

[Bunyon]

I know someone will twist this into me being a Discord overlord that has personally tankbustered 50 randoms and would tankbuster another 50, but I have to ask this question.

If there's so many people who absolutely hate joining Discords but also want to attempt the tower, what exactly is stopping them from going into an instance without an organised group (because there definitely aren't enough organised runs to fill every single instance of South Horn in the DC) and using shout chat to organise their own run? Why perpetuate the back-and-forth hate by clashing with organised groups in the same instance?

A couple of friends of mine on Hyperion were actively trying to get into Forked Tower this way, not with any expectations of clearing, they just wanted to get into it and try it in any respect. They were never able to even get enough people to enter much less prog, hahaha