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    Tyintheron's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luluya View Post
    They aren't treating anyone poorly, they simply requested that the other player not take the place their groupmate would have filled.
    Which I think is completely fine - within reason. That might be okay, and might not be okay, depending on the circumstances.

    But the OP's "we'll leave you on the floor if you join" is a threat, which I - personally - don't really think falls within the bounds of "within reason."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyintheron View Post
    Which I think is completely fine - within reason. That might be okay, and might not be okay, depending on the circumstances.

    But the OP's "we'll leave you on the floor if you join" is a threat, which I - personally - don't really think falls within the bounds of "within reason."
    Its not a threat, its just stating that they're not going to expend their own resources to rez that player should they die.

    Which is quite reasonable for foray content considering not everyone in a given instance (which allows any role) would be able to pick them back up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luluya View Post
    Its not a threat, its just stating that they're not going to expend their own resources to rez that player should they die.

    Which is quite reasonable for foray content considering not everyone in a given instance (which allows any role) would be able to pick them back up.
    Are chemist rezzes limited inside the tower? Outside they cost nothing. I had heard that individuals have a rez limit on them, not that chemists had a limit to the number of rezzes they could perform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astronis View Post
    Are chemist rezzes limited inside the tower? Outside they cost nothing. I had heard that individuals have a rez limit on them, not that chemists had a limit to the number of rezzes they could perform.
    Each person can be raised 3 times and no more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    Each person can be raised 3 times and no more.
    OK, I had heard that, but Luluya is suggesting that the player doing the rezzing would be expending their own resources. I am assuming that a premade would bring a chemist or two just in case regardless, because things happen no matter how good you are. Do the chemists have a limit to how many rezzes they can perform?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astronis View Post
    OK, I had heard that, but Luluya is suggesting that the player doing the rezzing would be expending their own resources. I am assuming that a premade would bring a chemist or two just in case regardless, because things happen no matter how good you are. Do the chemists have a limit to how many rezzes they can perform?
    Chemist itself isn't limited in how many rezzes they can toss out individually. The button itself triggers a 5 second global cooldown (like weaponskills and spells) but is instant. The main limitation is the raise stacks of each player remaining.

    What I assume they mean is "we won't be using resources to heal you up anyways therefore we won't raise you to begin with" which no offense, is an asinine way to go about it. Not even Ultimates are this tight that you can't drop some single-target heals on someone who recently got rezzed. For all the reasons one might have to "teach them a lesson", 'my resources' is a really awful reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Chemist itself isn't limited in how many rezzes they can toss out individually. The button itself triggers a 5 second global cooldown (like weaponskills and spells) but is instant. The main limitation is the raise stacks of each player remaining.

    What I assume they mean is "we won't be using resources to heal you up anyways therefore we won't raise you to begin with" which no offense, is an asinine way to go about it. Not even Ultimates are this tight that you can't drop some single-target heals on someone who recently got rezzed. For all the reasons one might have to "teach them a lesson", 'my resources' is a really awful reason.
    Thanks! That's what I thought, but not having been in myself I couldn't say for sure! Hell, just leaving someone on the floor and rezzing them after the fight's over wouldn't spend a speck of a chemist's resources in that case.

    This whole kerfuffle seems like people are being inconsiderate on both sides...no, no one can "snipe" a spot in free-for-all open content, but if you do join in with 40+ other players who are in a premade, for crying out loud, don't run ahead of them and blow up traps or pull mobs...stay back with the masses and follow along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    ...
    What I assume they mean is "we won't be using resources to heal you up anyways therefore we won't raise you to begin with" which no offense, is an asinine way to go about it. Not even Ultimates are this tight that you can't drop some single-target heals on someone who recently got rezzed. For all the reasons one might have to "teach them a lesson", 'my resources' is a really awful reason.
    Have any of the big savage influencers actually said anything to curb this behaviour?
    Because this, willfully not healing people after a res would be just the next level of appalling.
    I don't know they might have?

    They could do do much good if they got together and set an example that it's not ok to be a total asshole and wilfully not heal people.

    Xeno, Arthars, MrHappy, if they actually came out and said this is not ok behaviour "You're a piece of sh1 dk" and it's risky unacceptable, they could actually doc some real good.
    God I miss when Zepla was ambassador to look up to.
    If they haven't said anything then we really are just left with these pieces of ... cowardly naval gazers . No apologies. No take backs.
    It's totally unnecessarily, to go out of your way not to heal someone.
    It's just shitty cruel.

    They could really do some actual good.

    And I'll say again, it's not your instance because you brought the majority of the players.
    It was 'designed', to be run with whoever you get.
    It was designed that that might wipe you.
    It was designed to be bumpy, and that you try try and try again.
    It's not your instance. Your not entitled to make consistent prog.
    Discuss in instance. And try try try again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luluya View Post
    Its not a threat, its just stating that they're not going to expend their own resources to rez that player should they die.

    Which is quite reasonable for foray content considering not everyone in a given instance (which allows any role) would be able to pick them back up.
    "which is quite reasonable" Lmao ok redditor. No one in the real world thinks that though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luluya View Post
    Its not a threat, its just stating that they're not going to expend their own resources to rez that player should they die.

    Which is quite reasonable for foray content considering not everyone in a given instance (which allows any role) would be able to pick them back up.
    I mean - choosing to not heal/tank/res someone when you're capable of doing it IS on the "reportable offense" list for a reason.

    But I'm also fine with agreeing to disagree. It reads like a threat to me, and not to you - fair enough.
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