Relic being tomestone step AGAIN is incredibly depressing

[Gwenkatsu]

I for one liked the Tomestone grind in EW, it was the first time I ever had a FF14 relic in my hands. Guess what? I'm not going to bother with OC or a rng grind, just not interested in wasting my time waiting for a drop that will never happen.
So no matter from what perpespective you see it, the relic design in DT does not make any sense at all. The more grindy people see it as "yet another tomestone grind", and people like me will not even bother with it.
Seems they found another way to make every player unhappy at the same time. Which again poses the question: Who TF is DT made for?

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I came to expect seeing some form of "pay 1500 tome"-step at the beginning. I just do not wish to see yet another paint of the same step for the next ones.

[Saraide]

I came to expect seeing some form of "pay 1500 tome"-step at the beginning. I just do not wish to see yet another paint of the same step for the next ones.

Get ready to farm another 18 dementias followed by another 1500 times per relics in 8 months or whatever.

[AvoSturmfaust]

To be honest im fine with it, after all take a look at the ShB Relic,

First Step : 1k Poetics
Second Step : grind

This time they reversed, first grind then tomestone, look at anima or zodiark relics, every relic so far involved grind + tomestones, only the last one had literally 0 grind so just wait for the next step it will be again grindy

[CaptainLagbeard]

There will probably be other things to be done, but I am fine with the second step being just tomestones.

Demiatmas were kinda terrible, because of the layered RNG that existed inside OC for them as you needed the RNG to let specific FATEs and CEs spawn to get to roll on the RNG for the Demiatma. All they would have needed to do is have just 1 type of Demiatma, increase the drop rate and amount required and it would have been an actual grind and not just luck.

[Daralii]

To be honest im fine with it, after all take a look at the ShB Relic,

First Step : 1k Poetics
Second Step : grind

This time they reversed, first grind then tomestone, look at anima or zodiark relics, every relic so far involved grind + tomestones, only the last one had literally 0 grind so just wait for the next step it will be again grindy

The tomestones took the place of the solo duty that started the Bozja story. Every other step in ShB was either grind Bozja content or grind an alternative(FATEs, roulettes, PotD, etc), and they weren't one-and-done like the demiatmas. There's zero reason at present to think the DT relics won't just be one time grind and then 1500 tomestones, which dramatically reduces the shelf life of OC.

[AvoSturmfaust]

The tomestones took the place of the solo duty that started the Bozja story. Every other step in ShB was either grind Bozja content or grind an alternative(FATEs, roulettes, PotD, etc), and they weren't one-and-done like the demiatmas. There's zero reason at present to think the DT relics won't just be one time grind and then 1500 tomestones, which dramatically reduces the shelf life of OC.

Which would be okey, if they add as one time grind similiar steps like the ShB had like the 30 items out of every expansions raid, or 15+ alli raids and all that stuff im absolutly happy with it, i dont need to grind hundreds of hours for weapons which are only there for the look

Im for : One time step hard and grindy
repeat : tomestones

[Volgia]

The relic is meant to be a process you're doing for a whole expansion, if you are trying to rush to get every weapon as fast as possible you're going to get angry and bored real quick. The demiatamas or whatever are supposed to be a bit of a grind but meanwhile you're also leveling your phantom jobs which should happen naturally throughout the length of an expansion.

People hated the relic grind in EW because it was super lazy. Occult Crescent has more content to offer from mounts to minions to gear to a whole new instance while you're slowly getting your stuff up. Don't rush it.

[Dranari]

I for one liked the Tomestone grind in EW, it was the first time I ever had a FF14 relic in my hands. Guess what? I'm not going to bother with OC or a rng grind, just not interested in wasting my time waiting for a drop that will never happen.

I get the point of view, however. Relic has, as you stated, always been a grind. Its always been the content you historically can spend 100s of hours playing and still have smt to do. And sure, if they want to make the change to "you can complete all relics with barely any effort" as their new design, i think that is just depressing.

[Dranari]

To be honest im fine with it, after all take a look at the ShB Relic,

First Step : 1k Poetics
Second Step : grind

This time they reversed, first grind then tomestone, look at anima or zodiark relics, every relic so far involved grind + tomestones, only the last one had literally 0 grind so just wait for the next step it will be again grindy

I mean sure, but why say that "it will be tied to OC" when the relic isnt even in OC. Grinding tomestones in OC is like 50x slower than any other content in the game, that is completely insane.