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    Player AvoSturmfaust's Avatar
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    To be honest im fine with it, after all take a look at the ShB Relic,

    First Step : 1k Poetics
    Second Step : grind

    This time they reversed, first grind then tomestone, look at anima or zodiark relics, every relic so far involved grind + tomestones, only the last one had literally 0 grind so just wait for the next step it will be again grindy
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    To be honest im fine with it, after all take a look at the ShB Relic,

    First Step : 1k Poetics
    Second Step : grind

    This time they reversed, first grind then tomestone, look at anima or zodiark relics, every relic so far involved grind + tomestones, only the last one had literally 0 grind so just wait for the next step it will be again grindy
    The tomestones took the place of the solo duty that started the Bozja story. Every other step in ShB was either grind Bozja content or grind an alternative(FATEs, roulettes, PotD, etc), and they weren't one-and-done like the demiatmas. There's zero reason at present to think the DT relics won't just be one time grind and then 1500 tomestones, which dramatically reduces the shelf life of OC.
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    Player AvoSturmfaust's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    The tomestones took the place of the solo duty that started the Bozja story. Every other step in ShB was either grind Bozja content or grind an alternative(FATEs, roulettes, PotD, etc), and they weren't one-and-done like the demiatmas. There's zero reason at present to think the DT relics won't just be one time grind and then 1500 tomestones, which dramatically reduces the shelf life of OC.
    Which would be okey, if they add as one time grind similiar steps like the ShB had like the 30 items out of every expansions raid, or 15+ alli raids and all that stuff im absolutly happy with it, i dont need to grind hundreds of hours for weapons which are only there for the look

    Im for : One time step hard and grindy
    repeat : tomestones
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    Dranari Naeuri
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    To be honest im fine with it, after all take a look at the ShB Relic,

    First Step : 1k Poetics
    Second Step : grind

    This time they reversed, first grind then tomestone, look at anima or zodiark relics, every relic so far involved grind + tomestones, only the last one had literally 0 grind so just wait for the next step it will be again grindy
    I mean sure, but why say that "it will be tied to OC" when the relic isnt even in OC. Grinding tomestones in OC is like 50x slower than any other content in the game, that is completely insane.
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    Player AvoSturmfaust's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dranari View Post
    I mean sure, but why say that "it will be tied to OC" when the relic isnt even in OC. Grinding tomestones in OC is like 50x slower than any other content in the game, that is completely insane.
    Because the first step is tight too it, and so the other steps which require grinding something will be tied to it too

    And im sorry to tell you it, but if you really wanna play more then 10h each day, final is not the right game for you, sadly final requires less time for daily stuff then a mobile game and that will not change in the future
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    To be honest im fine with it, after all take a look at the ShB Relic,

    First Step : 1k Poetics
    Second Step : grind

    This time they reversed, first grind then tomestone, look at anima or zodiark relics, every relic so far involved grind + tomestones, only the last one had literally 0 grind so just wait for the next step it will be again grindy
    If you're looking at Zeta and anima now, then it looks like they had steps that were heavy on tomestones but at the time they were current the things you can buy now with tomestones were obtained only through other means and those tomestone options were put in later. Both of those questlines originally required a lot more interactivity with the available content.
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