Forked Tower is making me quit the game

[itachi-otsutsuki]

I said the same thing? Premades through discord counter how bad they went about it. I didn't say it should be this way.. I stated a fact. 48 randoms aren't progging this right now.. discord increases the likelihood you can prog and clear.

My hunch is you..
A. Haven't done FT once
B. Refuse to join any discords to prog it.

also who is your "we"??? people are progging it.. just not with randoms. speak for yourself.

You literally just said nothing. We all refuse to jump through those hoops to get access to the content. That is the whole point of the bloody thread. And you can't force us with your gatekeeping.

[TaleraRistain]

I know people who say this think they are being helpful. But they aren't and it just highlights the problem with the content. How much of the game requires you to organize through a third party app? Now have content that requires that, can the "discord it" people not see how jarring that is. If people wanted that kind of MMO they would not play 14. It is such a weird design choice.

Not to mention we PF Unreals, Extremes, Savage, Ultimates, Chaotic, Criterion, etc. We can do those all without Discord. But the only thing tying everything to Discord here (since some have said it's mechanically either EX or Savage level which we already PF) is the idiotic entry requirements instead of having a queue.

[Bryson]

You literally just said nothing. We all refuse to jump through those hoops to get access to the content. That is the whole point of the bloody thread. And you can't force us with your gatekeeping.

gatekeeping is - the activity of controlling, and usually limiting, general access to something.

i'm not doing that. I'm saying, in order to increase the likelihood of progging, join a discord... be it savage, ultimate, and yes FT.

I was given a discord, i joined a hosted run, i progged it until i cleared. I'm not sure what I did, that others can't? just because you refuse to do something.. doesn't mean weren't capable of doing so.

[itachi-otsutsuki]

gatekeeping is - the activity of controlling, and usually limiting, general access to something.

i'm not doing that. I'm saying, in order to increase the likelihood of progging, join a discord... be it savage, ultimate, and yes FT.

I was given a discord, i joined a hosted run, i progged it until i cleared. I'm not sure what I did, that others can't? just because you refuse to do something.. doesn't mean weren't capable of doing so.

It is a protest decision, are you really too slow to get that? The content is fucking awful and failed and needs to be revised. All you're doing is SE bootlicking and yeah you ARE attempting to control- limit access to people who want to enter the raid with your ultimatums. You then walked back with 'increases the likelihood' bs.

Anyway save it. Anyone who wants to use the discords are already using them, you aren't convincing anyone with that passive aggressive messaging you did. And for the record I did TRY to use the discords, but the jank and time wastage is unbelievable and now I refuse to participate in it. Content is dead to me until they do a patch. And I am fine with that.

[Bryson]

It is a protest decision, are you really too slow to get that? The content is fucking awful and failed and needs to be revised. All you're doing is SE bootlicking and yeah you ARE attempting to control- limit access to people who want to enter the raid with your ultimatums. You then walked back with 'increases the likelihood' bs.

Anyway save it. Anyone who wants to use the discords are already using them, you aren't convincing anyone with that passive aggressive messaging you did. And for the record I did TRY to use the discords, but the jank and time wastage is unbelievable and now I refuse to participate in it. Content is dead to me until they do a patch. And I am fine with that.

discord does increse the likelihood? it's not likely to prog with 47 randoms.. how would you possibly organize that when you're inside sense it's not an alliance?

it's not an ultimatum. it's the reality of the situation given the way they went about it.

I can't limit anyone's access.. all you have to do is be lvl 20 and stand on the platform during the weather condition.. ciphers can increase the chance you get picked, but I can't control anyone. we had randoms join before.. I couldn't prevent access. it's open content.

I think you just in your feelings which is fine... i'd be to if i wanted to prog it without using discord at all... you ain't clearing with that "i'm above discord" attitude though.

[itachi-otsutsuki]

discord does increse the likelihood? it's not likely to prog with 47 randoms.. how would you possibly organize that when you're inside sense it's not an alliance?

it's not an ultimatum. it's the reality of the situation given the way they went about it.

I can't limit anyone's access.. all you have to do is stand on the platform during the weather condition.. ciphers can increase the chanceyou get picked, but I can't control anyone. we had randoms join before.. I couldn't prevent access. it's open content.

I think you just in your feelings which is fine... i'd be to if i wanted to prog it without using discord at all... you ain't clearing with that attitude though.

More passive aggressiveness. Don't tell me what I can and can not clear. I literally did FRU in PF. FT is the worst entry design I have ever seen, it's not acceptable, it isn't worth doing discord or no discord. Period end of story.

[Bryson]

More passive aggressiveness. Don't tell me what I can and can not clear. I literally did FRU in PF. FT is the worst entry design I have ever seen, it's not acceptable, it isn't worth doing discord or no discord. Period end of story.

when i say "you" i mean in the context of you with 47 other randoms. it's not a critique of your skill. I agree the design is awful. I would've loved being able to spam it as an alliance.

[Mawlzy]

One issue I have with this argument is that it is pushing another major issue under the rug.

Once again in DT, SE has released content designed for savage raiders.

Those who don't engage with such content cannot fail to notice they are paying a full subscription price for half a game. I imagine the player count is cratering as a result.

[Bryson]

One issue I have with this argument is that it is pushing another major issue under the rug.

Once again in DT, SE has released content designed for savage raiders.

Those who don't engage with such content cannot fail to notice they are paying a full subscription price for half a game. I imagine the player count is cratering as a result.

The group I cleared FT with, had people who don't raid savage or ultimates. The boss mechs are on par with ex.

[JuicyHeals]

Agree with Bryson fights is no where close to savage but it does require people to study