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  1. #21
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    Saraide's Avatar
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenkatsu View Post
    The year 2025, a game that prides itself for its social and protective environment. Am I indeed the only one who finds it strange to hear phrases like "monopolizing content" or "queue sniper" in this context?
    Oh boi, the tone police has arrived. OP is free join one of the many discords that are trying to get forked tower cleared. You know, actually be social and engage with the communities that form around it and not just wait until the last possible moment to enter without trying to form connections first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Nero Tsukimi
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    Zalera
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    imagine enabling griefing
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  3. #23
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    G'raha Tinya
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    Lamia
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    Cannot upvote what Saraide said enough.
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  4. #24
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    Carin Eri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Oh boi, the tone police has arrived. OP is free join one of the many discords that are trying to get forked tower cleared. You know, actually be social and engage with the communities that form around it and not just wait until the last possible moment to enter without trying to form connections first.
    Whilst I don't disagree with you, I have to ask if I missed something - is there anything in-game to indicate that this is a requirement? How would a player who simply wants to try Forked Tower know about this unwritten rule?
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  5. #25
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    Caius Megaflare
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    Ragnarok
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    The fault lies neither with the solo players who want to try out content, nor with the players who had planned to do it as a raid.

    The blame falls on CBU3 for creating content with completely messed-up and failed design.

    At least Delubrum was accessible via the Duty Finder in both normal and savage versions.

    Once again, why didn’t they use that system to finally learn from their mistakes, instead of locking content behind stupid or overly difficult access requirements for certain players?
    They knew very well that BA’s access conditions were terrible, and yet they managed to do even worse—shutting out an entire segment of players who were eagerly awaiting this content, only to find it too hard and too restrictive.

    It's a bit like Chaotic, which no one does anymore, and which never had a mechanically lighter version.
    It’s sheer stupidity to lock challenging content behind a wall without offering a more accessible version for everyone.

    Or maybe they’re just really lazy and prefer to allocate their resources to all the other projects they have that aren’t FFXIV.
    Personally, I’d lean toward that. FFXIV is clearly lacking in development resources because CBU is working on a bunch of other projects, including a AAA game, and they’re understaffed when it comes to FFXIV.
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    Last edited by remiff; 06-16-2025 at 07:59 PM.

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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    Whilst I don't disagree with you, I have to ask if I missed something - is there anything in-game to indicate that this is a requirement? How would a player who simply wants to try Forked Tower know about this unwritten rule?
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    Last edited by Saraide; 06-16-2025 at 08:07 PM.

  7. #27
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    Lefanis's Avatar
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    This content is bad, and you just keep making it worse.

    Stop griefing people who are trying to clear this raid.
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  8. #28
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    Cid Heiral
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    How would a player who simply wants to try Forked Tower know about this unwritten rule?
    They wouldn't and that's bad design on SE's part. I haven't done FT yet but if it's anything like BA/DRS they're not particularly difficult, they just require planning and coordination, doubly so because of the raise restrictions. If SE wanted a bunch of randoms to just yolo into FT and succeed then they should have made a normal mode you get dumped into from the zone with whoever and then a savage mode you can queue into with a premade, similar to what they did with DRS. That or drop the raise restrictions so people can prog more freely.

    Unique objectives that require certain phantom jobs would have actually been a cool thing to do in the zone itself to break up the glorified hunt train, but when you put that in a dungeon where one person making a mistake potentially zones everyone out with no chance for recovery that's just asking for players to become toxic.
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  9. #29
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    Blackmage Vivi
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    Leviathan
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    you can't snipe a fork tower spot its FFA even if you have a pre-made group anyone is allowed in and not healing players in the content is against TOS~

    you may not like it but that is how it is course the good thing is most the players who are purposely killed and left on the floor wont report so it doesn't really matter but you are required to treat them as if they were part of your pre-made cause the content allows them to enter.
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  10. #30
    Player AvoSturmfaust's Avatar
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    Jin Sohan
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    you can't snipe a fork tower spot its FFA even if you have a pre-made group anyone is allowed in and not healing players in the content is against TOS~

    you may not like it but that is how it is course the good thing is most the players who are purposely killed and left on the floor wont report so it doesn't really matter but you are required to treat them as if they were part of your pre-made cause the content allows them to enter.
    Bullshit its not against the ToS, if that is the Case i will now start to report every cure 1 spammer, every tank which doesnt to wall2wall etc etc because thats all then against the ToS




    Back to the Topic, he asked nicely and said it clearly join if you want but they wont ress you, now you say its harassment? no its not, and yea even if its FFA people claiming always "nice community" but sorry no one respects the People which try to organize such a run to clear it, instead you try to leech of a place and then call them out for harassment, people always say the raiders are the toxic people, nuuh its the casuals yet again.
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    Last edited by AvoSturmfaust; 06-16-2025 at 08:35 PM.

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