Freaking gacha games respect my time more than Demiatmas, and that's sad

[Rolder50]

They are seemingly unable to find the middle ground between "Free Relic Weapon" and "Screw you grind for hours and hours praying for RNG to be kind"

[Kaurhz]

They are seemingly unable to find the middle ground between "Free Relic Weapon" and "Screw you grind for hours and hours praying for RNG to be kind"

Tbh...

Ideally they should just strip the RNG element from it, and make it a slow, steady progress-based grind...

It's even worse when you factor all subsequent relics are tomestone handouts (glorified tome weapons), which just completely dilutes the sense of achievement from the first relic.. Like, I ain't gonna remember or care much about that initial achievement when the game has just decided to hand me a free relic weapon every 2 days of roulettes.

[Granyala]

Tbh...

Ideally they should just strip the RNG element from it, and make it a slow, steady progress-based grind...

As you can see from this very thread: there are a lot of gambling addicts that take issue with deterministic progression.

[Nero-Voidstails]

As you can see from this very thread: there are a lot of gambling addicts that take issue with deterministic progression.

you are aware that most relic are RNG the one that aren't is eureka and ew but shb gave you a other way to have a guarantee way to have it but it was hw fates and have 20 of all three for one step. you also have a other step that's 15 time the CT raids or 5 time castrum in Bozja

[Granyala]

you are aware that most relic are RNG

I did every relic out there, since I play since the ARR days. So yes: I am aware that some steps were RNG bound.
Doesn't mean I agree with implementing unmitigated RNG in a game that is supposed to be fun.

Some RNG is fine but there needs to be a cap on possible bad luck. It is as simple as that.

[Nero-Voidstails]

I did every relic out there, since I play since the ARR days. So yes: I am aware that some steps were RNG bound.
Doesn't mean I agree with implementing unmitigated RNG in a game that is supposed to be fun.

Some RNG is fine but there needs to be a cap on possible bad luck. It is as simple as that.

then it isn't as bad as the normal atma from arr took me a whole month to get all the one I needed. yes a pity system could be used but at least it's a one step only thing