So how is everyone feeling about Occult Crescent now that it’s been a few days?

[Voidmage]

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You literally proofed what I have written, that most players don’t really care.
Being silent or not saying hello is also not toxic, like come on.

Your OC example is also… I don’t even know what to say.
Players stop all the time to help others.
Someone posts a “rez please” and healers will run through the entire map to help them or mass raise after a CE and I have lots and lots of casual conversations there.

Your examples absolutely do not match what I have or see in streams of others.
I am not saying you are lying but… dude, just because someone doesn’t say hello, doesn’t mean they are toxic.

I honestly have no idea what to write here anymore.
If you guys think a missing hello or silence is toxic or that people are “squatters” or “elitist” because they use Discord… then I think you might be the problem or you don’t know what toxic in an online community even means.

With that I leave this discussion because it will lead nowhere.

[Daralii]

You literally proofed what I have written, that most players don’t really care.
Being silent or not saying hello is also not toxic, like come on.

Your OC example is also… I don’t even know what to say.
Players stop all the time to help others.
Someone posts a “rez please” and healers will run through the entire map to help them or mass raise after a CE and I have lots and lots of casual conversations there.

Your examples absolutely do not match what I have or see in streams of others.
I am not saying you are lying but… dude, just because someone doesn’t say hello, doesn’t mean they are toxic.

I honestly have no idea what to write here anymore.
If you guys think a missing hello or silence is toxic or that people are “squatters” or “elitist” because they use Discord… then I think you might be the problem or you don’t know what toxic in an online community even means.

With that I leave this discussion because it will lead nowhere.

You're replying to someone that argued there needed to be a "final solution" to addon users because of "toxic" hardcore players. He's either a very dedicated troll or somewhat unhinged.

[Gurgeh]

You're replying to someone that argued there needed to be a "final solution" to addon users because of "toxic" hardcore players. He's either a very dedicated troll or somewhat unhinged.

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Here is that post of mine... I'll go bump it for yours and the add ons dev communities benefit.

It was a final solution to us Progliar/casual problems, not the high-end.

I'm not someone who believes that the whole world has suddenly turned autistic, and completely lost the ability to recognise irony from context, and I have no reason to think that is the case from you, but I do believe you believe your take on that post of mine.

Yes, my suggestion was "unhinged". It was utterly, completely, ludicrous. Totally unimplimentable and would be caustically hostile to what remains of the player population at large.
But the point was that things have now already got so out of hand that it's beyond correcting except in the 'doubtfully' viably long term.
And if that is not the case already, then SE needs to back CB3 (which i think is what is not going on behind the scenes) and they need to act fast. Or the only effective solution, will be the unthinkable solutions, and they are unthinkable.
I just saw my first genuine suggestion the other day, in an RP group (that hardly mentions the game much except in passing) that anticheat was now inevitable to curb addons. And these are not people who tolerate interference in their OSes.

But make this about me if you want. All the time this game slips further into unthinkable, (impossible) territory, while I and others move on.
I came back to keep friends company. 1 never did despite being actively subbed, the other left faster than am. Oh and these were very mild dedicated RPG players in their time. Real credits to old school 'caring' community. I doubt we'll be back for OC round 2. As far as I am concerned I can now never complete OC round 1, and i am a bit of completionist. It's why it took me 3+ years to reach EW.
But make it all about me. Fine.

[Gurgeh]

You literally proofed what I have written, that most players don’t really care.
Being silent or not saying hello is also not toxic, like come on.

Your OC example is also… I don’t even know what to say.
Players stop all the time to help others.
Someone posts a “rez please” and healers will run through the entire map to help them or mass raise after a CE and I have lots and lots of casual conversations there.

Your examples absolutely do not match what I have or see in streams of others.
I am not saying you are lying but… dude, just because someone doesn’t say hello, doesn’t mean they are toxic.

I honestly have no idea what to write here anymore.
If you guys think a missing hello or silence is toxic or that people are “squatters” or “elitist” because they use Discord… then I think you might be the problem or you don’t know what toxic in an online community even means.

With that I leave this discussion because it will lead nowhere.

Not what it was though not nearly. To me it's a wasteland. Maybe not toxic but, more toxic than it used to be. Wasteland.
Yes someone out of 70 people go to do a res, but I regard that as setting the bar pretty low.
I agree you are not saying I'm lying, but it's a wasteland, and while not 'very' toxic far 'more' toxic then it 'used to' be.
Being silent, being passive, does 'not' qualify as friendly.
It is a good fit for 'wasteland' though.